Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
drift king said:but if you really really want to bang her and at the time don't have many other options how do you get over this?
i mean fair enough if you've got 2-3 plates spinning but if you've got just the one at the time that's a very unenviable position to be in.
i have other plates i'm due to meet but i still can't seem to get rid of the oneitis with the one i'm with at the time and trying to arrange a date with.
You're absolutely right.. it feels like a chore and is absolutely not any fun, everything seems so routine. but the thing im trying to establish is that the bit which is the least fun is the waiting around for a reply or having to make calls to arrange 2nd dates.. it's like it's hard enough getting girls for 1st dates that when they actually go well you get over excited.. which makes me nervous. but then when i call and don't achieve what i want out of it i.e. a definite time for a 2nd date i freak out and do stupid stuff like calling again appearing clingy and needy then i keep trying to fix it when it may be unfixable, then i reach a point where i've ruined it so much that i might as well punt and call again to see if i can get her on the phone for long enough to make her laugh so much that she reconsiders..AlexTheGreat said:The problem with your analysis is that "you really really want to bang her". That's desperate right away.
Think about it like an auction: she's selling a relationship (or body, or sex, or whatever), and you're the bidder. You bid not with money, but with your own value. The more things you have going in your life, the more value you add to yourself. If the only thing you can think about is banging her, then your value is incredibly low: she will not be impressed.
You don't have to tell her you wanna bang her: the fact that you think about it all day will make you nervous when you're around her; it will make you creepy and needy.
Cut that ****. You want to have a good time with her, not bang her. Simply go in having fun.
Tell me the truth Pete (and drift king), are you having fun interacting with women? Are you having fun or does it seem like a chore? If it's not fun, you're probably doing it wrong; there's a reason this is called "the Game of seduction". And a game should always be fun![]()
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
By having something else going on in your life other than waiting around for some woman to call you back.pete101 said:how do i start to enjoy the waiting around bit and uncertainty that it's over.. when it's so stressful?
I disagree with this approach.Franky Four Fingers said:Pete,
STOP! I mean just STOP!
Read EVERYTHING you can find here on inner game.
You have to get your head right BEFORE learning techniques or even dating etiquette of when to call and what to say etc.
I don't think he has read much. He has only so many posts and probably comes on to get advice from time to time. If he has read anything he certainly needs to read more and begin to understand what he's doing.Jitterbug said:I disagree with this approach.
This guy has read enough. He's been here 2.5 years. What he needs to do is to get out there and apply what he's read, crash & burn badly like this. Doing it often enough will help him overcome his anxiety. Reading more will not help him right now.
It starts being fun once you stop putting so much pressure on the outcome. Think about it like an experiment or a game: how far can you go and still succeed? Which "level" can you attain?pete101 said:but how is the general waiting around suppose to be fun or the arranging to meet up?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
it's more the i've been on so many dates now for the past few months and consistently i'm failing and getting rejected to a point where my confidence keeps getting rocked. you'd think by now i'd have a success and i did on friday but this put me under so much pressure as it felt like oh no i'll have to go out with another 20 girls before i get this chance again..AlexTheGreat said:It starts being fun once you stop putting so much pressure on the outcome. Think about it like an experiment or a game: how far can you go and still succeed? Which "level" can you attain?
Right now you view the whole "setting up the date" part as a monotonous, tedious chore. However, that is the worst outlook to have: you should view it as an opportunity because you get to both 1) find out more about the girl you're about to date and 2) build up both anticipation, excitement and more.
You gotta practice it, but you have to let it go. Stop putting so much importance on that. Next time, go do some jogging or any other activity, and impromptu decide to give her a call. Don't think about what you'll say: you're already pumped by your physical activity, you don't need to think. You should know where you wanna go with her (have an idea of where and when), and call her. But don't think about what you'll say to her; don't imagine the hundred scenarios!
The less you think about it, the more relaxed you'll be. The better you do this, the more you're going to enjoy calling people. The more you enjoy this, the more fun you'll have doing it.
Another question, are you nervous when you have to call guy friends? If you are, then practice on them as well to get better at phone calls.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
yeah that's what i usually do, text them before i leave but i dont follow what you say i should say before i leave? like what C+F line.slaog said:You have agreed a time. Now the best thing for you to do is say nothing and text her just before you meet saying something like "i'm ready now for...(c&f)". This means you're on your way and it would be too late for her to back out.
I think with your mindset the relationship is doomed anyway. You have given her all the power and yes it does sound like you are begging her for a date.
When you meet her you need to not care about an outcome. The reason you have oneitis is because you're thinking about her too much and imagining you and her in a perfect relationship. Just stop seeing her as this perfect princess who has you begging for her because she's not. Ask yourself why do you put yourself down below her and her on a pedestal.
So keep in mind that it's just a date. Assume attraction (assume that she is attracted to you). Tell yourself that you are a MAN and you don't give a fcuk about her or any outcome.
Good luck with it but I think you need more DJ training.
If i do everything last minute or at least 1 hour before we're suppose to meet saying 'i'm leaving now' is that a better tactic?true romance said:Pete101
Call her on Wed to confirm, no texting, if she does not answer leave a VM and do something else...
Hey xxx, how are you?..etc. Just to confirm our meeting tomorrow night at xx time, location etc.
and hang up..be short and precise.
Right now she has all the power so you just sit there and hope she doesn't flake.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.