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jhonny9546

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It is clear that, with your gaming experience, you have reached the top. I try to learn new things every day, and the journey never ends.

Usually, there are two situations when interacting with women, and I can never understand which one is the right approach. Perhaps this is something you have experienced as well.

You know, when you are talking to a woman, I have identified two distinct patterns:

1) the conversation flows naturally. You laugh genuinely and feel involved; things happen automatically. For example, if she is doing something, you lend a hand without her asking, and vice versa. It feels like you’re engaging with a close friend (male). There’s no friction, and sexual tension could still arise. The mood is almost always positive and filled with smiles.

2) the interaction feels more distant and formal—almost as if saying "I don't like you." Tasks done together become challenging, leading to misunderstandings such as "I would have done it this way" or "No, it was better this way." There’s a lack of understanding, yet sexual tension could still arise.

I’ve always wondered which of these two approaches is the right one to determine if someone is suitable for us, long term. Version 1 certainly sounds more appealing, but "nice guy" version.
 

AmsterdamAssassin

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Could be that he had several accounts dormant, of course, but I don't feel like detective work. As it is, most people's stories and field reports and whatever are rarely congruent and either embellished or outright fantasies.

I never take anything anybody says at face value - people rarely say what they mean, so I make it a challenge to myself to try and figure out their motivation.

That's also how I can work with the PTSD women I counsel - I don't judge true or false, I merely look for congruency. Most people cannot deceive very well and they reveal themselves in their incongruities.

This is also an important skill to master for men who complain about women 'sh!t-testing' them. What women do is basically the same thing I do, testing for congruency. And the more your behaviour and action and speech and expression are congruent, the less you will be tested.
 

AmsterdamAssassin

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I’ve always wondered which of these two approaches is the right one to determine if someone is suitable for us, long term. Version 1 certainly sounds more appealing, but "nice guy" version.
You should ask @darksprezzatura directly through PM, but you've been asking these questions from everybody already.

There is no 'right approach' only an 'appropriate approach', since 'women' are never the same. Something that works with one woman doesn't necessarily work with another woman.

However, women who are attracted to you will not be abrasive or challenging or argumentative; they will be more likely to make it easy on you. So whenever a woman is making it easy on you, you can be confident you're using the right approach for that woman.

You still won't be able to determine if that approach will also work on another woman. You'll have to try and be able to adjust your approach to make the interaction smooth and successful. That's the challenge, but also the fun part of seduction.
 

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You have come a long way and are having experiences many can only dream of. Awesome. But you still have to brush your teeth, work out, and other things that only you can do. Sure its nice to be spoiled. It will also make you selfish and lazy if you are not paying attention.

Part of your success derives from the fact that you adore women. Many men here hold women in contempt, harbor a dislike or hatred for them because they cannot manipulate successfully due to creepy woman hater vibes. You have the opposite issue. You love women and women adore you for that. I have the same thing where men are concerned. Love men. Men feel that in the way I interact and get very attracted. It is a type of magnetism and it will help you immensely.....

Cheers
Quick sidenote: I have had a lot of success with women but mostly abroad. I do not enjoy American women for the most part even though I've tried many times but there seems to be no spark. I think part of that is because I've developed mild disdain for most American women over time and I feel like they can sense that. However, when I take molly and go out in the US, women all of a sudden LOVE me, it's insane the difference in my game. It's like I have total control. I have this effect naturally when abroad... Just interesting sidenote... Its very difficult to switch on the "woman adoration mode" for me these days in the US unfortunately...
 

Scaramouche

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Hi DarkSprezzatura,
For those too lazy to Google it:"Sprezzatura is an Italian word that describes the art of making something difficult look easy, or appearing to perform complex tasks without effort".To acquire a new word is to gain a new concept,this grows your intellect....I am both astonished and amazed at your achievements take a bow!
 

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Could be that he had several accounts dormant, of course, but I don't feel like detective work. As it is, most people's stories and field reports and whatever are rarely congruent and either embellished or outright fantasies.

I never take anything anybody says at face value - people rarely say what they mean, so I make it a challenge to myself to try and figure out their motivation.

That's also how I can work with the PTSD women I counsel - I don't judge true or false, I merely look for congruency. Most people cannot deceive very well and they reveal themselves in their incongruities.

This is also an important skill to master for men who complain about women 'sh!t-testing' them. What women do is basically the same thing I do, testing for congruency. And the more your behaviour and action and speech and expression are congruent, the less you will be tested.

:rolleyes::zip:
 
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BPH

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I am in the top 1% of the country’s workforce. I spent the last decade with studying what I do.
I’d say I’m above average in terms of looks.
I don’t work around women at all.

I do play the numbers game. It’s possible that I’ve approached over a hundred women last month itself. A paltry 20% success rate is nothing, means 4 out of 5 women rejected me, didn’t meet me, left me on read or friendzoned me. It has happened, I won’t lie. Yet 20% of a 100 is still 20 women who liked me enough to sleep w me.
Can you elaborate? I'm not understanding how this works.

You say you're in the top 1% of your country's workforce and vastly supersede all these women you meet when it comes to finances, yet you're somehow in ruin.

Furthermore, you say you're busy and that your work doesn't put you around women, but have the time to meet, approach, and sleep with dozens of women in a month, after meeting hundreds. I don't even SEE 20 women I want to sleep with in a month. Beyond that, it sounds like you're having threesomes with these women as they offer their friends up too.

I read the reply that you're 6'2", jacked with tattoos, extremely good-looking, and a musician, so maybe you have the rockstar persona going for you. Otherwise, I do not understand these women being content with multiple different women you're sleeping with being present at your place with them at the same time.

Are you able to share how old you are, how much you make, or how many women you think you've been with? Maybe that'll put some of this into perspective because I don't see how anybody would have the time.
 

jhonny9546

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There is no 'right approach' only an 'appropriate approach', since 'women' are never the same. Something that works with one woman doesn't necessarily work with another woman.
Maybe I explained it poorly, but I wasn't talking about an appropriate approach; I was referring to the ideal feeling you should have with a person who claims to be a great partner for you in the long term. Many relationships consist of united individuals, but I don’t see them collaborating with each other. Even when they do, they often blame one another or frequently get angry and argue. It’s more about "living together" than just an "approach."
 

Too Many Women?

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

Velasco

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considering a lot of people think that I lie about my sex life, seeing as I live with my parents
No I believe you because I lived like that for years before deciding to get my sh1t together and moving out to live on my own (your sex life will get a lot better. Trust me). As an honest person yourself, you can't comprehend why someone would go to such lengths to fabricate made up fairy tales for male readers online. I've just been around long enough to notice the red flags that it's just laughable to me.

Still, I understand that not everyone has been around long enough as me (read: naive), and can't discern fact from fiction, so it does me a disservice to not call it out when I see it.
 
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BeExcellent

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He's been around for years. Pops in & out. He's stated in years past that he's a handsome dude.

Sometimes men are THAT attractive. Before I started dating my first husband I dated a man who was the most beautiful man I'd ever seen until my second husband...He was a male model who did runway in Milan, catalogue and fragrance (the Holy Grail of male modeling) and other stuff. Women flocked to him; it made him uncomfortable all the attention. When I met him he was literally surrounded by 6 attractive women vying for his attention. He waved me over. I laughed, waved him off and kept walking. He deserted those other women and followed me outside, he wanted MY attention. He was an intelligent, ambitious man. He felt trapped at times in his body because he could not escape attention from women, most of whom he didn't find attractive & most of whom wanted him as a trophy.....

So ya its possible.
 

Solomon

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If you got 15 women you are now in a place where you can be picky, I'm assuming these women aren't whollymammoths, Perosnally I would norrow it down to the hottest, kindest, and most submsivvie
The chaos makes me drink way more regularly, I am not as focused on my work as I used to. Now I’m often happy if a woman cancels on me as that means I have time for myself or other women.

I want to go back to my dialled in headspace, focused on work, workout, health and diet. Getting some sun, good sleep. Make a new resume, leverage better income, build a business, invest in financial instruments. But I feel like I’m procrastinating and pvssy is my escape along with alcohol.

What I feel like doing is get some therapy, this is not a good way to live as other parts of my life are getting affected. Having options is great but there’s diminishing returns as well as a downward trend to quality of life after one point in time.
Are these 15 women all pretty/cute/hot? cause if they are kudos if they are all middies and fatties lmfaoooo

Moving on This is easy cut every girl and keep the hottest, most submissive, cooperative girl(cooking and cleaning should be mandatory) around, scale it too 2-3 and then take it from there. From Personal experince anything above 3 plates is to much time management unless you have some leeway i.e. one plate lives 2 hours, another plate works overnights etc

For work-life balance optimization, two Strong Plates and a Floater work best IME. However, if you have these options, get rid of all them and just make the best one your girlfriend.
 

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For work-life balance optimization, two Strong Plates and a Floater work best IME. However, if you have these options, get rid of all them and just make the best one your girlfriend.
One of the reasons my life works to my advantage is because I don't choose one and ditch the others.
 

Scaramouche

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Hi Solomen,
"For work-life balance optimization, two Strong Plates and a Floater work best IME. However, if you have these options, get rid of all them and just make the best one your girlfriend."Pretty much agree with the "Flying Dutchman"here,it also seems contradictory...I am also puzzled by the term"Floater"....Is it analogous to having an understudy in the wings?
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

Velasco

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He felt trapped at times in his body because he could not escape attention from women, most of whom he didn't find attractive & most of whom wanted him as a trophy.....

So ya its possible.
It's possible to get attention from lots of women (most of whom you won't find attractive) if you're a beautiful guy??? Women and their earth shattering insights...

It's actually better for his sake that this is all a fabrication. Because when you actually are sleeping with extremely beautiful hot girls, your not going to keep seeking others. 1 or 2 very beautiful hot girls and your good (1 girlfriend and 1 casual fvckbuddy) Can focus on other things. It's only when your sleeping with average looking girls that you continue searching for other girls because your not sleeping with the top girls. Been there myself. May end up sleeping with 20 in a month.
 

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Anonymous guy on a PUA forum claims to be 6'2", extremely handsome, talented musician, top1% income earner, globe trotter, sleeping with 20 supermodels per month through cold approach. DiCaprio wishes he could.
 

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Quick sidenote: I have had a lot of success with women but mostly abroad. I do not enjoy American women for the most part even though I've tried many times but there seems to be no spark. I think part of that is because I've developed mild disdain for most American women over time and I feel like they can sense that. However, when I take molly and go out in the US, women all of a sudden LOVE me, it's insane the difference in my game. It's like I have total control. I have this effect naturally when abroad... Just interesting sidenote... Its very difficult to switch on the "woman adoration mode" for me these days in the US unfortunately...
Interesting, as molly is an internal change. Does this mean that the secret is internal. I mean, why would molly help.

What is ECSTASY/MDMA?
Ecstasy/MDMA acts as both a stimulant and hallucinogen, producing an energizing effect, distortions in time and perception, and enhanced enjoyment of tactile experiences.
Adolescents and young adults use it to reduce inhibitions and to promote:
• Euphoria, feelings of closeness, empathy, and sexuality
Known as a party drug, ecstasy comes in pill or powder form; pill has a variety of logos and colors.

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However if you get the same from just change location, then it is more than internal....
 

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Select three lovers you enjoy spending time with the most. Ditch the rest, spend more time by yourself and on yourself.
This is exactly what I recommend in my program. You want the 3 highest quality women. More is unmanageable. For example I used to have a Tuesday gal, and one for Thursday and Saturday. They need to be in reasonable driving distance, and you want them either coming over to your place or going over to theirs.

I would take my Saturday gal out, although my Saturday gal was not my #1 plate. I (eventually) wanted a family so I kept my #1 gal to Thursday, thus driving her interest level through the roof (I married her 18 years ago).
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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