"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I know you people hate these, but get the F*** over it and help me anyways. I really just want some words of encouragement, thats what I came for and what I need to get me going again. I am building up the self desire and need a kickstart. Basically, I have this one chick I like, lives about 2 hours away (used to go to my school but moved) she is single but flirts alot with another guy. We usually only talk on the internet also. Now what do you think my next move is in this case.

The other, is normal hot cheerleader things, but this one is odd, different. Don't know if she likes me or feels bad for me or what. But she always says hi and stuff and when I first got my facebook account she was like one of my first 3 friends and she asked to be my friend. Odd, when very few others have.

What do you guys think and help me make some decisions.

Thanks, Kegger, not a DJ,YET!!!:up:
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Hey, we haven't talked in a while.

Flirt and Tease, I can't stress it enough. You can't build attraction and interest by just chatting with them. Hang out with them (at least the CL), and get to know them, and if you and her have fun together, and she takes your flirting well....well..you escalate.

Now is not the time to just be normal. CL is interested, amplify it =)

-as for the 2 hour flirt-machine, unless you plan on travelling a lot.....don't worry about her too much
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Yeah, I am really at a loss right now not knowing were to turn. I know that I must improve some important skills, like communication. I always grew up around lots of adults and few other people my age. So I am at a loss, I have trouble holding a conversation with someone my own age while I can talk for hours with an older adult. Also, I am soft spoken as it is, that is one thing I must overcome, do you guys have any ideas on that? Shyness is a problem but is slowly moving away. With things like facebook were you are behind the security of your keyboard I have been able to see that people really dont hate you because they interact with you there. P.S. Our high school is really big into facebook. So if you have any ideas, please let me know asap.

Thanks, Kegger
 

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Just talk to her, ask her questions and develop from her answers....sure..it might not be older subjects...but it's something in tune to her.
 

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I am on it. Thats what I kinda figured was best, build up a knowledge of each other. When you are stuck 180 days in a building with someone, its not as easy to just randomly ask people out as if you were in a bar with people you would never see again.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Yeah, just have short conversations with her for a bit, and then ask her to grab something to eat or anything like that after a few days...

Light Flirting/Teasing helps too =)
 
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