In a couple different places they find it usually takes about 10,00"hours to master something and i feel like the same might apply to women so if you did 10,000 cold approaches you would reach a certain level of game but i figure most of of ss and guys in general just want a lil cooch and wouldnt dedicate that much effort into it thats why most guys arent good but thats just my thoughts
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
10,000 hours=master
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
PapiChulo
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How about putting in 10k hours into something you may be good at instead? e.i. getting into peak shake, getting awesome skills to get a great job, in the sport of some sort, etc. I suppose it's a better investment for yourself to pay off in the long run.
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I mean you could. But you want to sarge for 10k hours? That's 40 hours per week for 5 years.
Plus you'd be deaf from all the loud clubs.
Plus you'd be deaf from all the loud clubs.
The “numbers game” fallacy is similar to the “hours game” fallacy. Think of a great musician. He has to put in a lot of hours of practice to get great at his craft. Once greatness is achieved, a person asserting an “hours game” argument would contend that the musician’s continued greatness depends on all the hours he puts into playing. But that is not the case. A great musician, once trained, can play five minutes a week and still be great compared to the non-musician or hobbyist musician.
So it is with game and pickup. Logically and unavoidably, most neophytes will make more approaches in order to put their game theory to practice in the field. That is how you get good. Simply reading about game and approaching one woman per year won’t cut it. But once a number of up-front approaches have been made — once the steepest part of the learning curve has been crested — and the aspiring seducer has improved his game acumen, then he can reduce his number of approaches while still enjoying a very good sex and love life because his odds of any one approach resulting in a fvck close have measurably increased over his previous, game-less baseline.
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/04/13/the-numbers-game-fallacy/
The 10,000 Hour Rule is true but, luckily for us, seduction is learned quicker. And yes, the more experience you have, the better.So it is with game and pickup. Logically and unavoidably, most neophytes will make more approaches in order to put their game theory to practice in the field. That is how you get good. Simply reading about game and approaching one woman per year won’t cut it. But once a number of up-front approaches have been made — once the steepest part of the learning curve has been crested — and the aspiring seducer has improved his game acumen, then he can reduce his number of approaches while still enjoying a very good sex and love life because his odds of any one approach resulting in a fvck close have measurably increased over his previous, game-less baseline.
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/04/13/the-numbers-game-fallacy/
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Social Leper I agree that there are more useful ways to spend your 10,000 hours but this is a forum about women...not cancer.
It applies to what ever you are trying to master. And I'm not saying you can't get good before then but for total mastery it takes a lot of practice
It applies to what ever you are trying to master. And I'm not saying you can't get good before then but for total mastery it takes a lot of practice
sageproduct
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FWCK that! Professional pianists don't train 8 hours a day just for fun.
I agree with the rest of his post and the overall message though.
sageproduct
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twentee i'll trade you a ******* for some reading lessonstwentee said:
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no no no he wants a guide on how you're going to help him clear 100K a year by bringing in a russian mailorder bride but then ship her to china so goundra can lose his v card.sageproduct said:twentee i'll trade you a ******* for some reading lessons
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.