You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Hyper2010 said:Split with ex a month ago, initiated NC 2 weeks ago. Got message last night saying she wanted to chat. Popped round, ended up banging her. Feel pretty crppy today. Is this normal? Any thoughts?
That would be a dream scenario, unfortunately, 9 out of 10 fail to keep thoose feelings down, why the NC is the only thing to go with.Vidrio said:As long as you don't develop feelings for her I don't see the problem. You might as well keep banging her until you get new options (If you don't have any already).
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Eh? he had sex with her, the only thing he lost was sperm.betheman said:yes its normal but it isnt good, this is why when you go NC, you stay that way. you are now back to square 1. she has asserted some control over you, you have lost some ground. so yes, it is normal, it isnt right but it is normal.
so why is he feeling like crap?Eternal_water said:Eh? he had sex with her, the only thing he lost was sperm.
he had some sex and can go NC again.
Quite a few threads recently along the line of "im getting too much action and interest from girls and I don't like it" like seriously what?
Send her my way for the sex next time if you don't want it, I won't complai about getting some
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Okay.Hyper2010 said:I think the reason I feel like crap, are that she was very huggy/cuddly before and after the sex, and confessed to still loving/missing me since we split up. Yet due to what happened when we split, there is NO possible way in this world we could ever sort this out. I knew this when I went round, and even had the mindset of see if I could get laid, and if not go home for a tug. But truth be told didn't expect her to put out.
Still it was my birthday today and made a nice present whilst Im spinning other plates....
She even confessed that since I went NC she had nearly rung me a few times.