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I've also noticed vocal quality is an issue too... A lot of those average looking guys who do well with women have great resonating voices and a way with words......a nasal voice is your enemy!

Yep, girls can be hypocrites when it comes to playing games.... I screwed my face up when I saw the "how to know if he's the real deal" section. If I act like that toward a woman, sure - she'll know I'm interested in her, and that would be a bad thing straight away. I don't think most guys...

Good for you Enigmatron. Don't ever look back. Becoming a DJ is as much about surrounding yourself with the right people as it is improving yourself. I'm always a much happier person when I stand up for what I believe in, and never regret it even when it appears that I'd made the wrong...

I also agree that if you lost weight you would be an 8+ easy. I see so many girls out there that have good bone structure and facial features but it's hidden under a layer of fat. So when your in the gym working hard and you feel like giving up, remember this post. You lose weight, you will...

She sounds like an attention wh0re. When your around she likes the male attention, but when you're not, she could care less. It's happened to me before, just put her in a room with other eligable guys and watch her ignore you....

Well, there are definately places that are better to touch than others. ie, shoulder, back, arms, hands are good places. The important thing to remember is that it is a natural extention of your gestures (eg directing someone in a direction - hand on back pushing in direction with other hand...

Confronting her is the mature option... I wouldn't take it..lol.... Like it was just mentioned, if you confront her she will know that she's gotten to you...actually, maybe a better idea would be to get her to confront you....hmm, perhaps I should take my own advice as I'm in a similar...

Depending on their tone of voice either they were flirting with you, or you tried to deliver a sappy one liner that they saw right through. How did you approach them, what did you say, how do you think you said it?

I can also vouch for that. You might start out trying to impress the ladies, but you end up doing for yourself, and because you never want to go back to being that fat lard you used to be.

Instant desperation killer right there! Bravo!!! :woo:

Somewhat a contradiction there. I see your point, sometimes we don't know the full story, but often times if a women really does want to get to know you better she won't let trivial crap get in the way.

Something similar happened to me, though not quite as bad. Even though this girl was a 9, I was so repulsed and pissed off by her behaviour that it was very easy to cut her off from my life. All of a sudden her 9/10 looks had no power over me and I was a man again :D . Be a man and don't...

Hmm that's an interesting way of looking at things. I am likewise trying to ascertain whether a girl is interested or not. :up:

LOL, no were both in our early twenties. But you're right, I should just have fun. I just don't want it to be "friend fun"..lol... Ok, Ok, I'll chill.... :cool:

Well said I must be learning a lot because I picked all the faults with that line straight away. Thanks for reiterating that verbalising attraction should be put off until completely necissary. It's all body language and action. If you asked her out on another date I'm sure she has the...

Update: Met up with her again, and set up a "casual outing". At first she had something specific in mind, but then it was like "ah we'll figure something out", so I'm thinking this is good in a way? The fact that it didn't really matter to her where we are going...???? Also, unless it...

Agreed, but there are nice ones out there, normally those that have developed a good personality out of necessity due to their poor looks. Like you, I've never had problems attracting girls, attracting the good ones is another matter entirely. And learning how to deal with their crap is...

You said it yourself, "she doesn't deserve it" means you hold her in high regard but are cautious, nothing wrong with that...go for it!!! Unless of course you don't really like/love her yourself, want to play the field or think you can do better... Be honest with yourself and you'll know...

Depends on how well you know the person as well. And what the content of the msg is. For example, if you're inviting a girl to a general party or something like that just a simple message will do the trick, but if setting up a date, calling is usually the go. Yes, I reckon msging is a the...

It's that little voice inside your head that say's your not good enough for that HB10. Crush it at all costs, but be realistic at the same time. Easier said than done, the balance we all strive for. Then again, if you can convince yourself that you're all that, then maybey you can convince...