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LOL Its so funny when some guys get some new piece of material (in this case the Venusian Arts ebook by Mystery) and then go around in posts, quoting the guy's theories word-by-word as if its the Bible.

Can any moderator plz sticky this post? Its pure gold

Heheh this is funny, i just mentioned the "you're soo mean" line in my reply in http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84022 In short, if they go "Oh, you're so meeeean!" with a smile, and often also kino u at that time, its a GREAT thing. Means u're doing the c+f push/pull...

Well the neg is a subtle way to get a girl's validation down as that leads to her seeking validation/acceptance from you. c+f teasing/ballbusting also do the same, but in a less subtle way. Depends on ur style and personality. If you are a more serious and sophisticated guy then u should...

well there are 2 things to say: 1) Everyone has an introvert and extrovert side. One is typically more developed than the other. If you develop ur extroverted side a bit you'll still be an introvert but u'll be much more confident and outgoing. 2) You can be primarily introverted and still...

See the problem here is that you got into his frame, and you tried to explain why u got ur shirt unbuttoned. A better reply would be to look at him in the eye but with a calm relaxed expression, and veeeeery slowly unbutton one more button on ur shirt Or just say: "what's the matter dude...

Actually, I'd say the opposite works better Be the ****y ******* type who does what he wants and doesnt give a f***. They will be all over you (but usually too intimidated to actually date you), and then you let them have some comfort around you and show them that deep inside you're not THAT...

I think it works the other way around (or both ways) When the "alarms" go in ur head, ur state and confidence are down. So if u approach, u're gonna have bad results, cause the girl will pick up on ur insecurity and lack of confidence ThePanther

I'm definitely up for it.

Wow... 5 stars from me for this post... Now I realise a LOT of things that were wrong with my game Keep it up!

I was about to post the same thing. I happen to be trying to get over my insecurities as well, and I can now tell the signs. A secure person would dress the way he likes and just smile at any negative comments.

yup happened to me too... was fooled and asked again, and again she was busy play it cool, and dont act too interested (sent some mixed signals)unless she asks you to hang out first

Sex does lead to confidence, but you can't get laid unless you got confidence... (or pay, or settle for an UG) So you gotta get the confidence first!

Addition to my previous post: "Even when things seem to go really well, and she's really into me?" ESPECIALLY then! Cause as soon as you lower your guard, thats when she realises you'd been playing hard to get all the time and you're not really the unobtainable great catch she thought you...

Well my opinion is that trying to help an AFC often makes him worse Eventually he'll realise that something is wrong and something must change, and then maybe he'll be receptive ThePanther

Heheh, thats exactly what I'm doing ever since I snapped out of WBAFC phase List of songs: - Superman by Eminem - Move B!tch by Ludacris - Good Guy by Boys 2 Men - Can I by Sisco - P.I.M.P by 50 cent - ***** Please (my fav. is the "III" version) by Eminem and lotsa others and many...

ROFLMAO... Yup, the dreaded effects of phenylothelamine. Worst "drug" ever simply cause our brain creates it just when it really shouldnt! Of course many ppl are saying: "heh, there's no chance i'll ever do that... I've recovered from my AFC days and I know how to be a challenge and not...

I got 3 good friends who are naturals: A) - Really tall (6'4'' at least) - Movie star looks - Very confident when in comes to women - Once had a gf who won country's beauty contest - Always surrounded by submissive beta guys that try to imitate him - Comes from rich family and has...

Heh Porky, I've been in similar situations as you, and did the same thing (nothing), and got the same thing (nothing!) Well, I can't say that my situations were THAT obvious as yours (i think the most obvious of the lot was when the girl started feeling up my leg) but i still felt like ****...

One lesson I learned in my last few attempts at the whole dating thing, is that you should never assume you've won and give up the DJ act. For example, in the last occasion is was a girl in my class that was always getting off her way to chat with me while she had barely known me. When i...