Top tier guys

[The Duke]

If it's all about looks then explain how a girl becomes attracted to a guy that isn't very attractive? It happens quite often.

 

[BaronOfHair]

If it's all about looks then explain how a girl becomes attracted to a guy that isn't very attractive? It happens quite often.

We remain content to ignore that women's perceptions of male beauty can be highly idiosyncratic. The fact that Lip Gallagher from Shameless has fashioned himself into Calvin Klein underwear model

, has billions of gals who are desperate to spread their legs to him, is testament to this

By contrast, there's no human reality in which Beverly Mitchell can be transformed into a sexpot on par with Jessica Biel

 

[Cheeky_James]

If it's all about looks then explain how a girl becomes attracted to a guy that isn't very attractive? It happens quite often.

that’s as broad a statement as it gets.
there’s zero context in that sentence.

He may have money or. status
He may have came first /first bf in teenage years.

They both may be equally unattractive objectively.
He may be short bald and skinny. She fat and old.

and what age bracket ? 20s 30s 40s etc..

For example someone here said they discovered things in their 50s about looks being relative.
Dating in the 50s bracket. For sure it’s less important, then.

looks become less important and men get older and move through the brackets. The market changes and women comprimise more and more is the reality. Money comes into it more, lifestyle, a more reliable dependable solid guy. Father material , Step Dad material etc. and don’t forget desperate women either.

a lot of advice here is sweeping, without any specifics or context as to who the poster is. His stats, age, location, money etc

There’s a lot of variables out there IRL as per above examples. And of course there are exceptions too. But the exception proves the rule as they say.

I’m not saying an average looking guy can’t get a woman.

I’m saying for women looks and physical chemistry is a paramount factor for sleeping with a guy fast.
So if any guy is an actual ‘Don Juan’, he always has high looks - not some magic personality or other elements to his ‘game’.

and also Looks are paramount in the earlier brackets too . Definitely in the competition of teens and 20s. Where it’s most obvious.
It’s easily observable then that couples are looksmatched/smv matched in those eras. And status too is a big factor also in those eras.

That’s all I’m saying really.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

that’s as broad a statement as it gets.
there’s zero context in that sentence.

He may have money or. status
He may have came first /first bf in teenage years.

They both may be equally unattractive objectively.
He may be short bald and skinny. She fat and old.

and what age bracket ? 20s 30s 40s etc..

For example someone here said they discovered things in their 50s about looks being relative.
Dating in the 50s bracket. For sure it’s less important, then.

looks become less important and men get older and move through the brackets. The market changes and women comprimise more and more is the reality. Money comes into it more, lifestyle, a more reliable dependable solid guy. Father material , Step Dad material etc. and don’t forget desperate women either.

a lot of advice here is sweeping, without any specifics or context as to who the poster is. His stats, age, location, money etc

There’s endless variables and variations out there IRL as per above examples.

I’m not saying an average looking guy can’t get a woman.

I’m saying for women looks and physical chemistry is a paramount factor for sleeping with a guy fast.
So if any guy is an actual ‘Don Juan’, he always has high looks - not some magic personality or other elements to his ‘game’.

and also Looks are paramount in the earlier brackets too . Definitely in the competition of teens and 20s. Where it’s most obvious.
It’s easily observable then that couples are looksmatched/smv matched in those eras.

That’s all I’m saying really.

Or your entire premise might be wrong which you seem incapable of considering.

Your arguments continue to be from a place of twist things to fit your mental version of reality instead of actual reality.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Or your entire premise might be wrong which you seem incapable of considering.

Your arguments continue to be from a place of twist things to fit your mental version of reality instead of actual reality.

what do you mean? I have plenty of experience and evidence of reality. Do you?

Edit; and the evidence is all around you IRL.
I’ve been pointing it out over and over on this thread.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

what do you mean? I have plenty of experience and evidence of reality. Do you?

Edit; and the evidence is all around you IRL.
I’ve been pointing it out over and over on this thread.

No you've been pointing out what you find on YouTube and social media. Which is about as far from reality as you can get.

 

[BaronOfHair]

a lot of advice here is sweeping, without any specifics or context as to who the poster is

Reference that visual example provided earlier in this thread https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/top-tier-guys.286804/page-2#post-3201578

To this day, fans of that series/even casual viewers deem Guy 1 more sexy and desirable than Guy 2, even though the latter is in many respects the more conventionally handsome. Looks are of limited value, on a man devoid of swagger and animal magnetism

 

[Gamisch]

Bro getting cooked in his own thread

Vigorously living through his homies or via celebrities like Richard fecking Gere.

Nobody, not even OP himself knows anymore what the exact goal of this thread seems to be...

 

[Divorced w 3]

Bro getting cooked in his own thread

Vigorously living through his homies or via celebrities like Richard fecking Gere.

Nobody, not even OP himself knows anymore what the exact goal of this thread seems to be...

Didn't Gere put gerbils up his butt? At least that was the rumor. It would really fit the theme of what's going on in this thread.

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[BaronOfHair]

Bro getting cooked in his own thread

Vigorously living through his homies or via celebrities like Richard fecking Gere.

Nobody, not even OP himself knows anymore what the exact goal of this thread seems to be...

"Solutions" to many of life's difficulties are conceptually simple, albeit not easy to execute in practice. Discussions such as this one are similar to urging folks who aren't getting further ahead in their careers to go read The Leadership Challenge, then do everything Kountzes and Posner instruct in those pages

Those who are in the most need of such guidance are the very same crowd likely to retort "But, Late Stage Capitalism/Wealth Inequality/Systems Of Power", then spend the next 3 hours watching Nerdrotic gripe over whatever Disney is doing these days

 

[Cheeky_James]

We remain content to ignore that women's perceptions of male beauty can be highly idiosyncratic. The fact that Lip Gallagher from Shameless has fashioned himself into Calvin Klein underwear model

, has billions of gals who are desperate to spread their legs to him, is testament to this

By contrast, there's no human reality in which Beverly Mitchell can be transformed into a sexpot on par with Jessica Biel

duuude. You are still stuck firmly in CopeTown.
That guy looks Tall and has an Adonis fvcking body bro. A 10/10 body. There is no gym for your height man sorry to tell ya. And his face.. fvcking hell .. he looks like Timothy Chalamet .
Yeah what an ugly dude

@Gamisch - the point was in my OP. You guys are UNDER-rating other guys Looks. And downplaying how much their Looks played as the primary factor in the women they got with. And also doing that IRL also obviously by rational and logical extension.

since then it’s become a debate of how much % of the pie Looks account for vs “game’ in getting women.
Has become a Pile On since tbh.
Loud doesn’t mean right lads!. I can keep posting evidence….. happy to continue. For now.

@BackInTheGame78 so you’re saying Social Media is not a reflection of reality now??
Fvcking hell lads… you are all coping so hard here on SoSuave…

 

[Cheeky_James]

Robert Greene
“The story of the greatest seducer I ever personally met .. he was Tall.. and *incredibly* Handsome..but then I realised his Secret…”

Robert don’t say it .. please bro..
don’t tell me he was hung like Rocco Siffredi as well.
I can’t handle any more bad news bro..

“Todo beng, ladies .. My name is Chadiego HardRod, I am from Brazil.”

Game over man.
Game over…!!

 

[BaronOfHair]

duuude. You are still stuck firmly in CopeTown.
That guy looks Tall and has an Adonis fvcking body bro. A 10/10 body. There is no gym for your height man sorry to tell ya

Yeah, it's impossible for most men to bulk themselves up(by extension, gain a more defined and stronger jaw) + Learn to dress taller the way a 5'7-5'8 Jeremy Alan White has, thus become more attractive. You've succeeded at "being right", rather than actually acquiring the wisdom necessary to get your needs and desires met, OP

You can now die happier than Arnold Rothstein did back in '28, when he similarly chose to not admit: "My poker playing has been sh-t-y of late", insisted on laying responsibility for his misfortune on the game allegedly being rigged

 

[Cheeky_James]

Yeah, it's impossible for most men to bulk themselves up(by extension, gain a more defined and stronger jaw), learn to dress taller the way a 5'7-5'8 Jeremy Alan White has, and thus become more attractive. You've succeeded at "being right", rather than actually acquiring the wisdom necessary to get your needs and desires met, OP

You can now leave the planet happier than Arnold Rothstein did back in '28, when he similarly chose to not admit: "My poker playing has been sh-t-y of late", insisted on laying responsibility for his misfortune on the game allegedly being rigged

hes 5’7- 5’8 ? Didn’t see that coming tbh.
Fair point .
but seriously - how much time does he spend in the gym with top LA trainers dude?
That’s ALL-OUT body building bro.
sure, actors can do that.
Hugh Jackman did it and the rest.

plus, he has a face like Chalamet obs. And great hair . Like I said.

 

[BaronOfHair]

hes 5’7- 5’8 ? Didn’t see that coming tbh.
Fair point

Here's another Fair Point, hoss...

Your current mindset is similar to what's eviscerated here https://www.actingcoachscotland.co.uk/blog/i-cant-become-actor , only applied to dating and mating

Be the DJ equivalent of Michael Balogun(A convicted felon who got no further than 8th grade, now one of the few non-white RADA grads in that institution's history. Who's booking roles on several high-profile projects, in BOTH The UK and Hollywood), instead of one of the millions who groans about Nepo Babies "stealing" all the plum roles these days

You're apparently not a dead ringer for M.B. Jordan or Jason Lewis during his tenure on Sex And The City, great... That's no impediment to getting more fit than you are now, getting a fresher/more stylish haircut, revamping your wardrobe into something niftier than it is now, etc etc

 

[Cheeky_James]

@BaronOfHair

. That's no impediment to getting more fit than you are now, getting a fresher/more stylish haircut, revamping your wardrobe into something niftier than it is now, etc etc

Which all falls under the strategy of LOOKSMAXXING fvcknard.
which I have been advocating for as the main strategy this whole thread. Cos that’s what it’s all about. That’s pretty much 90% of the game.

Maybe try keep up with the thread ya fvcking dumbass.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Tbh giving every member here the automatic title of ‘Don Juan’ on this forum is a misnomer and a bum steer.
Cos obvs most of you guys ain’t no Don Juan’s.
Fvcking 10 chicks as a mix of LTRs and a few ONS /casual or somesh1t .. doesn’t make a guy a fvcking “Don Juan”.
Especially if they are all ugly or old washed up pvssy.

THATS the real issue.
It’s pretty much impossible to sort the wheat from the chaff around here.

What a joke.

 

[BaronOfHair]

That’s pretty much 90% of the game.

Now that you've recognized as much, you can stop adding posts to this thread, and put the required work into yourself instead of fretting over what everyone else is doing with comments like:

"This low smv rating madness needs to stop!!"

 

[Cheeky_James]

Now that you've recognized as much, you can stop adding posts to this thread, and put the required work into yourself instead of fretting over what everyone else is doing with comments like:

"This low smv rating madness needs to stop!!"

So wait ..you AGREE w me now ?!

it does need to stop tho. That’s the thing.

Edit - this thread has gone 7 pages now.
So thanks all for the debate I guess.

we’ll agree to disagree and carry on.
Thanks