Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
We remain content to ignore that women's perceptions of male beauty can be highly idiosyncratic. The fact that Lip Gallagher from Shameless has fashioned himself into Calvin Klein underwear modelIf it's all about looks then explain how a girl becomes attracted to a guy that isn't very attractive? It happens quite often.
that’s as broad a statement as it gets.If it's all about looks then explain how a girl becomes attracted to a guy that isn't very attractive? It happens quite often.
Or your entire premise might be wrong which you seem incapable of considering.that’s as broad a statement as it gets.
there’s zero context in that sentence.
He may have money or. status
He may have came first /first bf in teenage years.
They both may be equally unattractive objectively.
He may be short bald and skinny. She fat and old.
and what age bracket ? 20s 30s 40s etc..
For example someone here said they discovered things in their 50s about looks being relative.
Dating in the 50s bracket. For sure it’s less important, then.
looks become less important and men get older and move through the brackets. The market changes and women comprimise more and more is the reality. Money comes into it more, lifestyle, a more reliable dependable solid guy. Father material , Step Dad material etc. and don’t forget desperate women either.
a lot of advice here is sweeping, without any specifics or context as to who the poster is. His stats, age, location, money etc
There’s endless variables and variations out there IRL as per above examples.
I’m not saying an average looking guy can’t get a woman.
I’m saying for women looks and physical chemistry is a paramount factor for sleeping with a guy fast.
So if any guy is an actual ‘Don Juan’, he always has high looks - not some magic personality or other elements to his ‘game’.
and also Looks are paramount in the earlier brackets too . Definitely in the competition of teens and 20s. Where it’s most obvious.
It’s easily observable then that couples are looksmatched/smv matched in those eras.
That’s all I’m saying really.
what do you mean? I have plenty of experience and evidence of reality. Do you?Or your entire premise might be wrong which you seem incapable of considering.
Your arguments continue to be from a place of twist things to fit your mental version of reality instead of actual reality.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
No you've been pointing out what you find on YouTube and social media. Which is about as far from reality as you can get.what do you mean? I have plenty of experience and evidence of reality. Do you?
Edit; and the evidence is all around you IRL.
I’ve been pointing it out over and over on this thread.
Reference that visual example provided earlier in this thread https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/top-tier-guys.286804/page-2#post-3201578a lot of advice here is sweeping, without any specifics or context as to who the poster is
Didn't Gere put gerbils up his butt? At least that was the rumor. It would really fit the theme of what's going on in this thread.Bro getting cooked in his own thread![]()
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Vigorously living through his homies or via celebrities like Richard fecking Gere.
Nobody, not even OP himself knows anymore what the exact goal of this thread seems to be...
"Solutions" to many of life's difficulties are conceptually simple, albeit not easy to execute in practice. Discussions such as this one are similar to urging folks who aren't getting further ahead in their careers to go read The Leadership Challenge, then do everything Kountzes and Posner instruct in those pagesBro getting cooked in his own thread![]()
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Vigorously living through his homies or via celebrities like Richard fecking Gere.
Nobody, not even OP himself knows anymore what the exact goal of this thread seems to be...
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
duuude. You are still stuck firmly in CopeTown.We remain content to ignore that women's perceptions of male beauty can be highly idiosyncratic. The fact that Lip Gallagher from Shameless has fashioned himself into Calvin Klein underwear model, has billions of gals who are desperate to spread their legs to him, is testament to this
By contrast, there's no human reality in which Beverly Mitchell can be transformed into a sexpot on par with Jessica Biel
Yeah, it's impossible for most men to bulk themselves up(by extension, gain a more defined and stronger jaw) + Learn to dress taller the way a 5'7-5'8 Jeremy Alan White has, thus become more attractive. You've succeeded at "being right", rather than actually acquiring the wisdom necessary to get your needs and desires met, OPduuude. You are still stuck firmly in CopeTown.
That guy looks Tall and has an Adonis fvcking body bro. A 10/10 body. There is no gym for your height man sorry to tell ya
hes 5’7- 5’8 ? Didn’t see that coming tbh.Yeah, it's impossible for most men to bulk themselves up(by extension, gain a more defined and stronger jaw), learn to dress taller the way a 5'7-5'8 Jeremy Alan White has, and thus become more attractive. You've succeeded at "being right", rather than actually acquiring the wisdom necessary to get your needs and desires met, OP
You can now leave the planet happier than Arnold Rothstein did back in '28, when he similarly chose to not admit: "My poker playing has been sh-t-y of late", insisted on laying responsibility for his misfortune on the game allegedly being rigged
Here's another Fair Point, hoss...hes 5’7- 5’8 ? Didn’t see that coming tbh.
Fair point
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Which all falls under the strategy of LOOKSMAXXING fvcknard.. That's no impediment to getting more fit than you are now, getting a fresher/more stylish haircut, revamping your wardrobe into something niftier than it is now, etc etc
Now that you've recognized as much, you can stop adding posts to this thread, and put the required work into yourself instead of fretting over what everyone else is doing with comments like:That’s pretty much 90% of the game.
So wait ..you AGREE w me now ?!Now that you've recognized as much, you can stop adding posts to this thread, and put the required work into yourself instead of fretting over what everyone else is doing with comments like:
"This low smv rating madness needs to stop!!"