"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Women that want "submissive" men

Bible_Belt

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Somebody explain this to me. I'm gonna tag @BeExcellent and @Sega Genesis in on this one.

I've got a girl I matched with on a dating app who I then number-closed through Instagram that I'm supposed to meet with tomorrow up in Philly. We've been chatting back-and-forth for the past few days; she's been sending me dirty pics, and it's looking like all green lights.

However...we are texting right this moment; the conversation is getting a little explicit. She'd mentioned that she's into some kinky stuff, along with some "power dynamic" stuff, and asked if I liked "dominant women". I didn't think much of it...but now she's telling me to "behave" and that she wants me on my knees, sending me a reel on Instagram of some dude with a bunch of captions like "yes mommy".

I don't know how committed she is to this specific bit, and I can play the game a LITTLE bit if that's something she's into, but that's just really unnatural behavior for me, and I'm trying to grasp how that can be something she likes. Because most women want to be led, provided for, protected, dominated, etc. When she takes on that role and the man is in the submissive role, how can she respect that or be attracted to that?

Is that the point? Like a humiliation thing?

As far as background context, she works as a bottle/shot girl, is very attractive, and has a poor relationship with her father (her parents are divorced). I know that information probably explains some of this, but I don't understand how a dynamic could exist where the woman is attracted to her man when she occasionally treats him like a pu**y.

EDIT: I'm gonna tag @Hal9000 cus I know he knows his sh** and I see he's back.
Flip the script. She's attracted to the concept of the power dynamic, not necessarily who is on top.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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corrector

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How dare you write a thread about her. Did you get her permission to do that? Who said you can do this without her permission? I'm going to have to tell on you.
 

Cheeky_James

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Better watch some videos on pegging then I guess.
And wearing a dog collar…etc

just get used to the idea?
Get in the zone
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 

BillyPilgrim

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The coven is going to have some fun with OP out in the Barrens. Stay safe man.
 

RangerMIke

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While I try to avoid generalizations, since everyone is different, but it does appear that a many young women today are looking for a man that they can emotionally control, to their benefit, that cannot be controlled by others. Of course this is a contradiction, and when she does find a man, she can emotionally control, she has a man that can be controlled by others. This will eventually turn her off... and the man gets DXed.

The best advice I can give a young man today is avoid emotional decision making, always try to evaluate EVERYTHING rationally. This is easier said than done... since in the USA we are conditioned from childhood to bow to commercial culture. All our advertising is geared to trigger emotional decision-making. Keep grinding and make the best life for themselves and look for women that want a true partner in a mutually beneficial relationship. Avoid taking on any debt and focus on yourself.

It is better to be alone than chained to a woman that is always dragging you towards things she 'thinks' will make her happy. If you marry one of these... well, things will end 7-10 years in the divorce, you will have tens of thousands in debt, lose half your sh1t, have to spend the rest of your life fighting over kids. While you are living in a studio apartment, where the kitchen doubles as a bathroom, she will have moved on to the next sucker... because there are always other suckers.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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She's either:

A) Addicted to roleplaying.
So addicted that she's stuck in character mode. Ever seen images from Comic-con? Picture someone from that convention in character 24/7

B) Crazy
Don't date crazy

C) A sex worker
That way you described how she talks is like the 50th craigslist ad I've read online
 

Cheeky_James

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She cold be just tooling you.
Like that other chick that was saying you were gay etc idk, hard to say.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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