"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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At 43 with what sounds like little to no social circle you're in a very awkward spot

What's left of Uk culture is heavily centred around getting absolutely slaughtered on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon

I don't think there really is anything else to do , maybe in the bigger cities there would be more options but certainly the smaller ones thats it

The country is also in a very depressive state which is probably why you're noticing all the anger and agrression.

In terms of the social dynamics It's all very "Love Island"

The UK is absolutley obsessed with reality TV culture and that show in particular really got a stranglehold on the younger generations

That is where this archetype you're referring too was born from.

A lot of people in the UK tend to fall into Hive mind and a lot of their ideologies are based on the above

Its why I left the country 3 years ago and haven't Been back since.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Cheeky_James

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Hi, first post, although I've been around before years ago. It kinda feel like I need a "refresher course"..all the knowledge is there somewhere but struggling to apply it again.

In the UK there's a real common archetype bloke this decade that gets partnered up:
- 5'9" ish
- tattoos
- on and off gym (mostly off) so a bit of added muscle but poorly optimised and chubby
- looks like he needs a shower
- manual labourer
- using debt to get an Audi/BMW/Mercedes + more tattoos
- drinks every weekend, likely some drugs too
- always angry/aggressive
- untidy stubble or beard

I think I'm coming across a bit incongruous to a lot of women..

- 6'2"+ heavy weights 3-4x week
- very lean (you could say ripped)
- no tattoos
- laid back (probably too chilled)
- clean shave every 4 days
- no drink, smoking or drugs (the no booze is a big thing socially in UK)

It seems birds now expect a gym build to be associated with tattoos, "hard-living" and that whole aggressive gymtard persona.

Maybe I come across as married or cucked..dunno.

Hello anyway :up:
I like this post and the comparison.
I’d say the obvious thing seems to be the archetypical bloke is “on trend “ -w the tattoos.
And you are not.
He is also a manual labourer which is more masculine also vs a desk jockey job. Quite a large % of women do dig a tatted up, tradie archetype. And chicks also like to drink and party. (And do party drugs too )

But with you being taller and more ripped in comparison
I’d say the problem is you are too laid back and chilled . Usually a common problem w guys afaics is they are still too Nice Guy with women and need to learn to be more aggressive.
have more sexual intent when approaching and interacting women. And be bolder.

also if you have a fit rig - definitely show it off :up:
My 2cents.
 

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At 43 with what sounds like little to no social circle you're in a very awkward spot

What's left of Uk culture is heavily centred around getting absolutely slaughtered on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon

I don't think there really is anything else to do , maybe in the bigger cities there would be more options but certainly the smaller ones thats it

The country is also in a very depressive state which is probably why you're noticing all the anger and agrression.

In terms of the social dynamics It's all very "Love Island"

The UK is absolutley obsessed with reality TV culture and that show in particular really got a stranglehold on the younger generations

That is where this archetype you're referring too was born from.

A lot of people in the UK tend to fall into Hive mind and a lot of their ideologies are based on the above

Its why I left the country 3 years ago and haven't Been back since.
All sound comments, thanks.

One of my regular things to do is weekend mornings in the gym. A nice chilled crowd of regulars, and by the time will very likely not be drinkers, more health focussed. I'll slow down my workout to a couple of hours, less intense and more social.

This is versus your 5pm weekday gym people who'll train during the week then party at weekend.

Any attempt at socialising past 6pm in this country seems pointless now.

I like this post and the comparison.
I’d say the obvious thing seems to be the archetypical bloke is “on trend “ -w the tattoos.
And you are not.
He is also a manual labourer which is more masculine also vs a desk jockey job. Quite a large % of women do dig a tatted up, tradie archetype. And chicks also like to drink and party. (And do party drugs too )

But with you being taller and more ripped in comparison
I’d say the problem is you are too laid back and chilled . Usually a common problem w guys afaics is they are still too Nice Guy with women and need to learn to be more aggressive.
have more sexual intent when approaching and interacting women. And be bolder.

also if you have a fit rig - definitely show it off :up:
My 2cents.
I've always been laid back and had luck with things working well for me. You are right that I need to step up action from the comfort zone.

I'm happy to forego the party girls, that culture just doesn't interest me. Ethnic girls drink much less and don't like the "tradie stereotype"..those seem to be my new preference. :up:
 

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accurate. i always tend to test high in mach in these. not so much the other categorizes
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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In the UK there's a real common archetype bloke this decade that gets partnered up:
- 5'9" ish
- tattoos
- on and off gym (mostly off) so a bit of added muscle but poorly optimised and chubby
- looks like he needs a shower
- manual labourer
- using debt to get an Audi/BMW/Mercedes + more tattoos
- drinks every weekend, likely some drugs too
- always angry/aggressive
- untidy stubble or beard
One way to think about all of this:

In the contemporary Anglosphere, fellas like this https://youtube.com/shorts/puIt8lKf31M?is=eWf2IDWSkNj1YpXo are currently the only demographic(s) who exhibit something approaching a virile edge. The other 98% of the male population consists of either

-Intersectionalist male allies, who mistook voting Harris for moral superiority, have spent every microsecond of their lives from '15-today feigning outrage over everything out of a certain POTUS's mouth. These milk sops don't hesitate to inform everyone of their preferred pronouns, strive to ensh-tify this planet into a so-called "Safe Space, and generally defend the existence of Bias Response Units on campus


-Devout parishioners in The Church Of Toe Rogan/some other content creator. By now, we've all encountered quite a few of these boneheads, who excel at THEORIZING about being a man/have perhaps even taken sh-t tons of steroids and undergone some pseudotraining at their local strip mall McDojo. Y crap out miserably in the face of actual conflict, are clueless as to the swiftest and most effective way to either incapacitate or "unalive" someone in actual brawl. They probably have at least on tattoo of Mushashi, though they've at best skimmed over dude's screed, have no desire to read it closely and it's entirety

Thus, gents like Money and The Beast in the linked video have panties drenching by the billions, even though they're clearly not "good people"
 
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