How do you know if a woman is cheating without proof?

[plumber]

don’t fully agree with your take of the blue pill

mainly because if you look at the advices the elderly gave ( and received from their elderly ) about men and women, they are not any different than what is preached in the red pill

Things like
“ after trains and women never chase “ ,
“ women need to know who is in charge “
, “ you will find a new one, don’t be such a wimp “
, “ beauty does not matter, character matters “, “ if she creates problems always, dump her “ etc etc etc

just that in our elderly vision the emphasis was put on the man to make things happen. Basically men acting like men

red pill is just a troglodyte version of the blue pill where the emphasis is put on women that are evil. And from there is stems a lot of mental masturbation that is extremely toxic to men that just creates a lot of anxiety and wrong set of beliefs that literally just makes things even worse

if you ask me, red pill is just the counter movement to feminism, basically men saw the feminist beliefs and just adjusted that rhetoric to men, but both of them have the same core ideas just that they are opposite.

Basically red pill teaches men to act like women, and it caters to bitter men just as feminism caters to bitter women

blue pill tells men that they are men and have to act like one, and most importantly to always be accountable

Red pill tells men that it is ok to whine and act like a woman, and most importantly it strips away accountability from the men to a third party ( it is not me man, women are evil or only want the top 10% )

and no wonder society crumbles when no one is accountable anymore

i like your version of blue pill. that's just masculine and proper man behavior. in discussions usually blue pill == something less attractive. as per your definition I do not actually see very many blue pill men. when I do I would view them as alpha by your description of blue pill. my version of red pill is closer to your version of blue pill. for example crying about women's behavior is blue pill while taking action and adjust self to address it is red pill. your definitions are almost opposite of that. definition problem on your side or on my side. for the behavior we are saying the same thing or close to it.

 

[BadBoy89]

How do you know if a woman is cheating without proof?

If she is under 30 and hot.

Any other condition, the man doesn’t really care if she cheats,

 

[BadBoy89]

according to the manosphere, every woman is cheating on their partner, fvcking 3 guys simultaneously, and being flown to Miami/dubai 5 times a year while still maintaining the image of a normal life.

Wrong.

The manosphere says every women is a virgin before marriage, has 2 healthy kids while simultaneously looking after the home, and is not able to divorce and take 51% of the man‘s assets.

 

[BaronOfHair]

You can always

-Report her to DHS for "providing material support to a foreign terrorist organization"

Then

-Pray in church every Sunday that, after a week or two of waterboarding and sensory deprivation, she'll confess to spreading her legs for The FedEx Guy. In the midst of coping to a veritable sh-t-on of additional accusations she isn't actually guilt of

Desperate situations frequently require that we pursue drastic measures, if we're to retrieve any sort of resolution. Just ask the editors of Page 6, who've spent today reporting on Brian Austin Green's declining sex drive... Now that high-profile celebrities are taking a hiatus from croaking this week(RIP Hayden Panettiere, Dolly Parton, and Tim Curry), they're doing what's necessary, in order to keep their readers hooked

 

[Bingo-Player]

Still unsure as to why humans love to get so worked up about partners wanting to sleep with others

The construct of monogamy is not natural its a social construct designed by wider society to keep people supplicated

People in long term relationships tend to be less of a threat to the system, their predictable will get big mortgages credit cards they tend to consume a lot of consumer goods, have cars on finance take less risks with entrepreneurship etc

Just generally more controllable more easy to politically manouvre and more easy to tax

Humans also tend to like to control others and the opposite sex partner is no greater example of that " your mine now " ....

Some people really enjoy playing happy families , but in my experiences most people eventually want a taste of the forbidden fruit and given half the chance will indulge themselves in an affair be that male or female

Men love hunting new sexual partners and women love flaunting for new sexual partners

None of this fundamentally changes upon entering a relationship its just the rules are supposed to change but rules do not stop innate desires

 

[MatureDJ]

Maybe bring up the idea of a chastity belt?

 

[tesla8520]

I think that people focus too much

It's not that you focus but if you are in a relationship with one, some of her behaviour, may alert something inside of you, like a gut feeling.
And since women are the master at manipulation, you'll never know what is she really doing.
So you go with a different route.
You weigh that based on if she is respecting you or not.

 

[tesla8520]

the same can be said of men. don't think i ever met a man that wanted to harm his mate by cheating. sometimes women do it to harm the mate, but usually thats not it. both men and women do it because they do not have honor. red pill teaches us that honor has no place in evolution. one of the oldest and simple red pill rule is that you get what you negotiate not what you deserve. blue pill tries to convince that you will eventually get what you deserve.

I disagree with this.
I mean this is true, but honor exist if you are a mature man, and if you have honor listed as one of your values.

 

[tesla8520]

Still unsure as to why humans love to get so worked up about partners wanting to sleep with others

The construct of monogamy is not natural its a social construct designed by wider society to keep people supplicated

People in long term relationships tend to be less of a threat to the system, their predictable will get big mortgages credit cards they tend to consume a lot of consumer goods, have cars on finance take less risks with entrepreneurship etc

Just generally more controllable more easy to politically manouvre and more easy to tax

Humans also tend to like to control others and the opposite sex partner is no greater example of that " your mine now " ....

Some people really enjoy playing happy families , but in my experiences most people eventually want a taste of the forbidden fruit and given half the chance will indulge themselves in an affair be that male or female

Men love hunting new sexual partners and women love flaunting for new sexual partners

None of this fundamentally changes upon entering a relationship its just the rules are supposed to change but rules do not stop innate desires

That is the full picture.
That said, who you are and what you do as a man sets you apart from the rest.

If you believe in something and hold certain values, why wouldn't you act on them?
If you set rules and your partner breaks them (driven by innate desires), then you cut ties.

But you cannot live your whole life in the limbo of merely satisfying innate desires.
Most men achieve maturity and greatness in life precisely by controlling those desires and channeling that energy into creating resources to secure stability.

 

[plumber]

I disagree with this.
I mean this is true, but honor exist if you are a mature man, and if you have honor listed as one of your values.

i am smile about this. i can agree that if your definition of mature man includes honor, then yes. i can modify my idea to suggest that we do not have many mature men. saying the same thing, just changing the definitions....

 

[Bingo-Player]

If you believe in something and hold certain values, why wouldn't you act on them?
If you set rules and your partner breaks them (driven by innate desires), then you cut ties.

But you cannot live your whole life in the limbo of merely satisfying innate desires.
Most men achieve maturity and greatness in life precisely by controlling those desires and channeling that energy into creating resources to secure stability.

what is the alternative living a whole life in a socially and beurucractically constructed prison !?!

If there's one thing I've learnt in my 35 years on this planet is that nothing is really that serious

However humans love to attribute sensationalised dynamics to almost everything they do to feel some sort of relevance or importance in the world

People make these huge dramas out of say finding out a partner is cheating when its been happening since the dawn of time , its constantly in all of our literature , tv , movies and you can simply go and find another partner or be single

We'll all be dead in 50 years probably sooner its really not that serious lmao

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

One thing I've consistently noticed in my past relationship is that whenever she was talking to another guy or something, she would always place the focus on me: "where were u last night" - "who's that girl?" etc. So if she randomly starts accusing u of cheating, it could be because she already has and is trying to cover her tracks by going on the offense...

Another thing is that she'll randomly start complaining about something.

The hard truth is that sometimes the girl is right about what she's complaining about and she's kind of giving you a warning signal that if you don't fix something,well..she basically warned you.

In my case, it was about not being generous enough which was true. I made her pay for stuff a lot, but I was also broke.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Put her hand on your c0ck and see if she strokes it. If no attempt is made, she's cheating.

 

[tesla8520]

what is the alternative living a whole life in a socially and beurucractically constructed prison !?!

Actually, it's the opposite.

Precisely because you understand how things work, you establish rules of conduct.
If those boundaries are crossed, you cut that person out of your life.

I realize that your behavior is driven by constantly exploiting situations to seduce others and gain advantages in life, but you are an unstable person with no long-term goals.

Only those who can master their desires and needs truly move forward.
You can't just give in to them, my friend.

 

[tesla8520]

One thing I've consistently noticed in my past relationship is that whenever she was talking to another guy or something, she would always place the focus on me: "where were u last night" - "who's that girl?" etc. So if she randomly starts accusing u of cheating, it could be because she already has and is trying to cover her tracks by going on the offense...

Another thing is that she'll randomly start complaining about something.

The hard truth is that sometimes the girl is right about what she's complaining about and she's kind of giving you a warning signal that if you don't fix something, well..she basically warned you.

And in fact, when he talks, you never know if he's telling you things you should really pay attention to, or if he's manipulating you.

It's an art to understand.

 

[RoadKing_Rabbit]

The 3 Italian stooges reside in this forum.

Clockwerk, I thought it was just me...

 

[SpartanWarrior77]

And in fact, when he talks, you never know if he's telling you things you should really pay attention to, or if he's manipulating you.

It's an art to understand.

Wait im confused? He or she? But in the case of she then yes, agreed...