"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Smoking fetish - do you find women who smoke sexually attractive?

Guitar_Whizz

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I don't smoke but I've always been quite attracted to women who smoke cigarettes.Visually at least, it's definitely a turn on for me. I don't like the smell or the negative health aspects of smoking, and I've never smoked and never will, but I definitely like the look of a hot girl smoking a cigarette (she has to be attractive to me....an ugly girl smoking doesn't turn me on).

This is known as a smoking fetish, i.e being turned on/aroused by women who smoke.

After doing some research, it seems that smoking fetish is actually quite common and a lot of guys think female smokers are sexy.

Just wondered if any other guys here also find women who smoke attractive?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Guitar_Whizz

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Hell no...I hate the smell and it sticks to their clothing and their teeth.

Not really a weed fan either for the same reason.
I don't like the smell of weed either.

I also don't like kissing women who have just smoked a cigarette - it's gross and is like kissing a dirty ashtray. The taste is harsh and lingers in my mouth, literally making me gag.

I do find smoking sexy from a visual point of view, though.
 

RoadKing_Rabbit

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I had a 'phase.' I definitely appreciate non smoking and being around people who don't. I used to smoke as well.

I will say that most of the freakiest and 'willing to do stuff' type of women I dated were smokers. Good time, not long time.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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zekko

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I've heard of the smoking fetish, not my cup of tea though. Smoking has always looked cool, I guess.
Unfortunately, it's turned out to be one of the dumber things that humans do.
 

RoadKing_Rabbit

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I've heard of the smoking fetish, not my cup of tea though. Smoking has always looked cool, I guess.
Unfortunately, it's turned out to be one of the dumber things that humans do.
I mean if you 100% rationally think about what you are doing to yourself in detail there is NOTHING remotely intelligent about it.
 

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@Guitar_Whizz "Visually at least, it's definitely a turn on for me"

Comparable to the thrill we all experience watching fictional gunfights on screen, imagining ourselves as the protagonist(s), and those whom we find disagreeable in RL being the antagonists who bite the dust

It's not the sight of her sucking on that cancer stick itself that have your blood pumping, but your fantasies of how skillfully she might service you... As others have already pointed out, that fantasy doesn't take into account probable realities, like how funky her breath likely is, what her overall lifestyle is, etc etc
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Hal9000

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Studies have indicated women who smoke are quite a bit more promiscuous than those who don't. Do with that what you will.
 

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an ugly girl smoking doesn't turn me on
It doesn't turn any man on.

Just wondered if any other guys here also find women who smoke attractive?
Sure, if she's hot and under 30 and hasn't been pregnant before.

Sydney Sweeney: "I am 29, very sexy and voluptuous, A+ list actress, but I have one cigarette per week."

Laymen on Sosuave:
"Next!!!"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Duke

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On a side note, I once saw a $tripper blow smoke rings with a cigarette in her coochie! LMAO. Those Missouri girls sure do put on a show. I knew I should have left as soon as I walked into that place.
 

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What about vaping? I think around half the people who smoke these days vape instead.
 

SpartanWarrior77

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Everyone is sexy when they smoke, thats why the marlboro man was such a successful campaign. That's why Mad Man scenes are so awesome. Without cigarettes they would be nothing....NOTHING I tell you MWAAAAHAHA
 

Jor-El

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Visually appealing to a point,on a young pretty thing,I can get that,but,wait while the effects of those same cigs kick in over the years,,wrinkled skin,yellow/black teeth,crinkly hair,yellow fingers,raspy cough...yuck. Seen many a pretty girl ruined by cigs,dosent happen straight away,but you watch as the decades roll on
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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