"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Smoking fetish - do you find women who smoke sexually attractive?

Guitar_Whizz

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I don't smoke but I've always been quite attracted to women who smoke cigarettes.Visually at least, it's definitely a turn on for me. I don't like the smell or the negative health aspects of smoking, and I've never smoked and never will, but I definitely like the look of a hot girl smoking a cigarette (she has to be attractive to me....an ugly girl smoking doesn't turn me on).

This is known as a smoking fetish, i.e being turned on/aroused by women who smoke.

After doing some research, it seems that smoking fetish is actually quite common and a lot of guys think female smokers are sexy.

Just wondered if any other guys here also find women who smoke attractive?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Guitar_Whizz

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Hell no...I hate the smell and it sticks to their clothing and their teeth.

Not really a weed fan either for the same reason.
I don't like the smell of weed either.

I also don't like kissing women who have just smoked a cigarette - it's gross and is like kissing a dirty ashtray. The taste is harsh and lingers in my mouth, literally making me gag.

I do find smoking sexy from a visual point of view, though.
 

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I had a 'phase.' I definitely appreciate non smoking and being around people who don't. I used to smoke as well.

I will say that most of the freakiest and 'willing to do stuff' type of women I dated were smokers. Good time, not long time.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I've heard of the smoking fetish, not my cup of tea though. Smoking has always looked cool, I guess.
Unfortunately, it's turned out to be one of the dumber things that humans do.
 

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I've heard of the smoking fetish, not my cup of tea though. Smoking has always looked cool, I guess.
Unfortunately, it's turned out to be one of the dumber things that humans do.
I mean if you 100% rationally think about what you are doing to yourself in detail there is NOTHING remotely intelligent about it.
 

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@Guitar_Whizz "Visually at least, it's definitely a turn on for me"

Comparable to the thrill we all experience watching fictional gunfights on screen, imagining ourselves as the protagonist(s), and those whom we find disagreeable in RL being the antagonists who bite the dust

It's not the sight of her sucking on that cancer stick itself that have your blood pumping, but your fantasies of how skillfully she might service you... As others have already pointed out, that fantasy doesn't take into account probable realities, like how funky her breath likely is, what her overall lifestyle is, etc etc
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hal9000

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Studies have indicated women who smoke are quite a bit more promiscuous than those who don't. Do with that what you will.
 

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an ugly girl smoking doesn't turn me on
It doesn't turn any man on.

Just wondered if any other guys here also find women who smoke attractive?
Sure, if she's hot and under 30 and hasn't been pregnant before.

Sydney Sweeney: "I am 29, very sexy and voluptuous, A+ list actress, but I have one cigarette per week."

Laymen on Sosuave:
"Next!!!"
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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On a side note, I once saw a $tripper blow smoke rings with a cigarette in her coochie! LMAO. Those Missouri girls sure do put on a show. I knew I should have left as soon as I walked into that place.
 

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What about vaping? I think around half the people who smoke these days vape instead.
 

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Everyone is sexy when they smoke, thats why the marlboro man was such a successful campaign. That's why Mad Man scenes are so awesome. Without cigarettes they would be nothing....NOTHING I tell you MWAAAAHAHA
 

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Visually appealing to a point,on a young pretty thing,I can get that,but,wait while the effects of those same cigs kick in over the years,,wrinkled skin,yellow/black teeth,crinkly hair,yellow fingers,raspy cough...yuck. Seen many a pretty girl ruined by cigs,dosent happen straight away,but you watch as the decades roll on
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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