"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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What happened Alpha Male PuA theory/advice??

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What happened Alpha Male PuA theory/advice??

It still exists, but looksmaxxing and other ---maxxing min/ max strats is the current meta. I also agree that the social and masculinity of young men has dropped considerably. Thank the feminist world for destroying and shaming all the masculine traits out of us. Btw, one of the biggest masculine traits is protecting your home, and we're told we're bigots and racist if we say anything to immigrations suddenly turning your town into new India or new Afghanistan.

However, the old tactics still work. Women can't help their biology. What is going against all men is that women not only are supported by the government, but they still have loads of money and options, making us men irrelevant.

The good side to this is that men are still the leaders, even if the globalist world is going against us. A woman instantly loses her power when she is outside the state in anyway.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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When you say "women were the real seducers", what do you mean by this? Do you mean they charmed men into sleeping with them? They used sex appeal and body language to seduce men? Flirtatious?
Time was, all women had to do to be seductive was act feminine - act like women. You don't see that as much anymore.
 

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To add to this, men are willing to throw other men under the bus for female and general public validation. In effect, men are acting like women in how they handle brotherhood and relationships. This only adds to how fu*cked the dynamics are. The fact celebrities and politicians, the ones in front of our eyes everyday, show off such traits is proof of society giving these traits a premium.
 

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This has not been my observation at all. Countless women go jogging at 5am and get kidnapped and raped. Or walk into the wrong car that they thought was their uber and go missing. Most women nowadays act like they live on cloud nine and are totally oblivious to the dangers of the world. Sure, if a woman lived in a third world country, she might look for protection. Maybe that’s why so many American men go to south east Asia to find love.
Hmmm yes there is a % of women that are that stupid enough to go out at 5am solo and run through parks in the half light,

But I would not extrapolate that small % out further . I see a lot of women jogging with fit male ‘exercise buddies’ also, that’d be a much bigger % I’d guesstimate.

Id point to the phenomenon of hot bodied strippers coupling with Bikie BadBoys or big bodybuilder BadBoy dudes. Those kinds of women, seek these guys for protection and safety.
Id extrapolate that out, as a good example of primal female behaviour.
Plus the dudes status and connection to party drugs also. Obvs.

and women’s preference for taller men. Obvs again.
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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What happened Alpha Male PuA theory/advice??

It still exists, but looksmaxxing and other ---maxxing min/ max strats is the current meta. I also agree that the social and masculinity of young men has dropped considerably. Thank the feminist world for destroying and shaming all the masculine traits out of us. Btw, one of the biggest masculine traits is protecting your home, and we're told we're bigots and racist if we say anything to immigrations suddenly turning your town into new India or new Afghanistan.

However, the old tactics still work. Women can't help their biology. What is going against all men is that women not only are supported by the government, but they still have loads of money and options, making us men irrelevant.

The good side to this is that men are still the leaders, even if the globalist world is going against us. A woman instantly loses her power when she is outside the state in anyway.
yes to this.
I would like to protect my home.
Is why Id like to own a colt AR15 assault rifle (with an M16A1-style birdcage flash suppressor) with the M203 grenade launcher attachment.
Just like Arnie/Dutch had in the Predator movie :D:cool:

with the desert eagle pistol sidearm also.
of course. :)
 

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yes to this.
I would like to protect my home.
Is why Id like to own a colt AR15 assault rifle (with an M16A1-style birdcage flash suppressor) with the M203 grenade launcher attachment.
Just like Arnie/Dutch had in the Predator movie :D:cool:

with the desert eagle pistol sidearm also.
of course. :)
Just get a sawed off shotgun so you can hit multiple intruders with one blast :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Just try to be a better version of yourself according to the highest image you ever had about yourself. You guys are making this more complicated than it needs to be.
 

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Just try to be a better version of yourself according to the highest image you ever had about yourself. You guys are making this more complicated than it needs to be.
Imo that’s an extremely vague self improvement plan. That’s my issue w that meta level advice .

If a newbie/inexperienced dude was super shy or ND /spectrum even , that’s not much to go on ,they have to firstly create a ‘higher image ‘ in their own head. ?? Where is this meant to come from(?) how would they know how to create this if they are clueless ..

and really hard to measure ‘progress’ to that advice . There’s no goals/improvement points to hit, except the end goal of an all around ‘better’ , ‘higher image of self’.

With your improvement for example Sniper

If your improvement was via bodybuilding + tattoos + wearing jewellry let’s say..maybe growing your hair longer (?idk) and growing a beard.
For a more attractive ideal Look of self..

Where did this ‘higher image’ come from?

I’ll guess it’s from some guy(s) you have seen / met along the way, that did well w women.

It’s influenced and orginates from the’ Best Practices’ you’ve seen of other more successful men and modelling their looks. Real guys.
 
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Imo that’s an extremely vague self improvement plan. That’s my issue w that meta level advice .

If a newbie/inexperienced dude was super shy or ND /spectrum even , that’s not much to go on ,they have to firstly create a ‘higher image ‘ in their own head. ?? Where is this meant to come from(?) how would they know how to create this if they are clueless ..

and really hard to measure ‘progress’ to that advice . There’s no goals/improvement points to hit, except the end goal of an all around ‘better’ , ‘higher image of self’.

With your improvement for example Sniper

If your improvement was via bodybuilding + tattoos + wearing jewellry let’s say..maybe growing your hair longer (?idk) and growing a beard.
For a more attractive ideal Look of self..

Where did this ‘higher image’ come from?

I’ll guess it’s from some guy(s) you have seen / met along the way, that did well w women.

It’s influenced and orginates from the’ Best Practices’ you’ve seen of other more successful men and modelling their looks. Real guys.
Your higher image comes from your heart. Your heart has way more intelligence than your brain.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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-Dominant /High Status Dress and Presentation (sharply dressed and groomed )

- Dominant physical frame re body : fit , strong, muscular etc

Behaviour ***
-Dominant Eye Contact
- Dominant Voice
- Dominant body language in the interaction
- Dominant conversational style / frame control
- Dominant strategy : ‘ a man with a plan ‘ and who is leading

there may be other lil bits I’ve left out
But that’s about the fundamental stuff of Alpha Traits
This man could also be described as “highly assertive” or “very confident”
I understand these are good traits, but I don't think it's going to make a difference for a guy that a woman has little to no initial attraction for.
 

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I understand these are good traits, but I don't think it's going to make a difference for a guy that a woman has little to no initial attraction for.
Well, yes of course.
Its gonna be a yes/maybe/no in the blink of the womans eyes , re his attractiveness and bangeability.

But if its a yes/maybe after second 1 -still best practices re behaviour imo.

This kinda stuff is what women are feeling out for in the interaction /conversation and judgement.
The categorisation of a dude - into either Quick Sex category or Boyfriend type guy category.

I reckon its critical to in NightGame to get ONS/SNLs.
And just in general , best practice of looks and behaviour,
 

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Now that I think about this a little further, I think there was a time here where you could get kicked off the board for saying looks matter. It was that big of a part of the PUA dogma.
 

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Now that I think about this a little further, I think there was a time here where you could get kicked off the board for saying looks matter. It was that big of a part of the PUA dogma.
Absolutely.
I remember on RooshV forum, people would regularly get banned for even simply implying that her physical attraction to you is obviously important on a cold approach. Or if they commented on a lay report (maybe a report where the girl approached the guy and told him that he was hot) that his looks are what done the heavy lifting and not his pushpull lines etc - he would be banned. Completely insane lol. It's like I said about how the 'original' idea that was sold was taht you could literally be an old, bald, fat, broke geriatric, and if you failed to bang some super hot 18 year old, then it was always a 'game issue'. No other excuse would be tolerated lol (there are still posters and coaches scattered around on some subs and forums who preach this lol $$$)

But the funniest thing about it all was that, some years later (about a year before Roosh shut down that forum and went Jesus Freak on us), Roosh HIMSELF done a U-turn and in a blog post basically said (paraphrased of course!) "OK - After all of this time, i've come to the conclusion that your 'game' is simply the ability to close with the girls who are visually attracted to you. Nothing more than that. You can't use game to MAKE a girl attracted to you". From memory his post was inspired by some fairly extreme blackpilled things he'd seen on his most recent travelling trips at the time

Of course he never unbanned people or apologised to those who he'd got rid of haha
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Now that I think about this a little further, I think there was a time here where you could get kicked off the board for saying looks matter. It was that big of a part of the PUA dogma.
Hell, if you said race had an impact, you had a whole lynch mob attacking you.
 

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Absolutely.
I remember on RooshV forum, people would regularly get banned for even simply implying that her physical attraction to you is obviously important on a cold approach. Or if they commented on a lay report (maybe a report where the girl approached the guy and told him that he was hot) that his looks are what done the heavy lifting and not his pushpull lines etc - he would be banned. Completely insane lol. It's like I said about how the 'original' idea that was sold was taht you could literally be an old, bald, fat, broke geriatric, and if you failed to bang some super hot 18 year old, then it was always a 'game issue'. No other excuse would be tolerated lol (there are still posters and coaches scattered around on some subs and forums who preach this lol $$$)

But the funniest thing about it all was that, some years later (about a year before Roosh shut down that forum and went Jesus Freak on us), Roosh HIMSELF done a U-turn and in a blog post basically said (paraphrased of course!) "OK - After all of this time, i've come to the conclusion that your 'game' is simply the ability to close with the girls who are visually attracted to you. Nothing more than that. You can't use game to MAKE a girl attracted to you". From memory his post was inspired by some fairly extreme blackpilled things he'd seen on his most recent travelling trips at the time

Of course he never unbanned people or apologised to those who he'd got rid of haha
Looks do matter. There were black men on that forum who specifically did articles on what black men, for instance, needed to do to close women who normally avoid them or see them as hoodrat. Same for the asians and indians who had their own separate threads on how to compensate for your race. Race is like height: you are born with it, so you have to deal with it and the perception of it. That's very ironic that he would ban people over that considering we also highlighted a lot what women liked. Women take race seriously, and yet we're suppose to ignore it?
 

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Let's be honest, society doesn't reward you for being masculine. Masculinity is just a losing sales pitch for men. The men extracting the most value from society have stronger feminine traits than masculine ones. No matter how alpha male you act, you are subject to an employer and the state.
There is some truth to that for sure. Masculinity is toxic!!!!!
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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