The attraction statement that ruin my relationship with women

[perilous_man]

The more I get into red pill material, books, blogs, etc., the more I begin to understand many common belief systems concerning attraction in my native country. One of them is "La mujer se conquista por el oído," or in English, "Women fall in love with their ears." As I see it, this statement leaves out some important aspects of women's attraction, such as social skills, body language, being mysterious, being funny, etc. I used to believe this and thought I had to say romantic things to women in order to win their hearts. What do you think about this statement?

 

[Novice1]

Speak in a way that it's earned not given

 

[Mertz09]

According to the so-called experts on the internet, (I'm not talking about this Forum) a women will fall for a man if he makes her feel "Safe" among other things. Additionally, very attractive women are frequently hearing "romantic things" so don't say them, and don't chase her.

My 2 cents,

 

[Clockwerk50]

There is some truth to it. Men tend to be more visually stimulated, while women tend to be more responsive to emotional stimulation through words, tone, and delivery. That is why humour, playful teasing, suggestive comments, well-placed compliments, and romantic measures are effective because it is how you make her feel through what you say by creating pleasure and confusion.

However, this is only powerful and works as long as the woman has interest and desire for you. Just like if you receive a selfie from a woman you have no interest in, it probably will not have much effect on you. The same applies in reverse; a woman's interest in a man influences how she responds to his words and gestures.

 

[BaronOfHair]

What do you think about this statement?

Similar to the assertion that a toddler who's physically assaulted by Mummy&Daddy with a fan belt each and every day will, by default, become John Wayne Gacy 2.0... What causes(insert event of choice)can almost NEVER be attributed to a single factor. As to whether or not women fall in love via auditory experience:

A man's vocal tonality(Ex. Joe Arden

regulalry has gals exclaiming: "He burned my f-cking panties off!!!")and his choice of words https://youtube.com/shorts/JlXNGprnjYs?is=aWghKH-lXMg8QjjS can definitely enhance his attractiveness

This isn't valuable though, if a fella is also morbidly obese, wears nothing but "ironic" Ts and jeans barely held together with duct tape, and refuses to throw on deodorant. Same way Sydney Sweeney's looks, on their own, wouldn't have allowed her to become The It Girl of our current era, had she also possessed a mouth interchangeable with that of Leslie Jones or Melissa Mccarthy

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

"Her ears" doesn't must mean saying romantic things.

It refers to communication in general.

A man who is more expressive, all else equal, will be more attractive than a man who is less expressive.

A man who is comfortable and skilled articulating complex emotional ideas and relationship dynamics, will be, all else equal, more attractive than a man with lesser skills.

Of course, what you say can't be random things that come out of nowhere. They have to be highly related to things you know about her, her fears, desires, etc., elicited through conversations.

 

[KevinRyman22]

Red pill is a double edged sword.. It's almost a must that you believe in it so you are aware whether you are getting played or not, -- it can save you from critical emotional and financial damage... HOwever, believing in it too fervently can make you despise women, and thus you start attracting more of what you don't want in women -- and seeing more of the negative side of things.

It's all about balance.. You swallow the redpill, but you also cultivate healthy ideas about women by not blamign women like a soyboy or AFC and taking accountability for your own self because no 2 men attracts the same type of situations unless they are both losers/weak/lack alot of checkmarks for women.

 

[perilous_man]

There is some truth to it. Men tend to be more visually stimulated, while women tend to be more responsive to emotional stimulation through words, tone, and delivery. That is why humour, playful teasing, suggestive comments, well-placed compliments, and romantic measures are effective because it is how you make her feel through what you say by creating pleasure and confusion.

However, this is only powerful and works as long as the woman has interest and desire for you. Just like if you receive a selfie from a woman you have no interest in, it probably will not have much effect on you. The same applies in reverse; a woman's interest in a man influences how she responds to his words and gestures.

Sure and that desire comes from us being a real alpha male. My issue with the statement I described in the post, is that it only shows a tiny aspect of female seduction leaving behind some other important aspects, if only that is left it will not work, all should be in balance.

 

[perilous_man]

"Her ears" doesn't must mean saying romantic things.

It refers to communication in general.

A man who is more expressive, all else equal, will be more attractive than a man who is less expressive.

A man who is comfortable and skilled articulating complex emotional ideas and relationship dynamics, will be, all else equal, more attractive than a man with lesser skills.

Of course, what you say can't be random things that come out of nowhere. They have to be highly related to things you know about her, her fears, desires, etc., elicited through conversations.

I agree with this, as women have highly communication skills they tend to respond differently when we actually listen to them. I remember a time when I was in a tour, then a girl sit next to me, she then started to talk to me about the proteins that had the food. I noticed that, then said to her: Do you go to the GYM? She said yes, and continued to talk about her. I learned to notice this reading the so suave book, which is clearly explain. Another issue I with the statement describe in the post, is not the statement itself but as we have been condition caused from one way or the other to be a nice guy, that statement might be traduced into "The man doing something to win her hear through her ears".

 

[Clockwerk50]

Sure and that desire comes from us being a real alpha male. My issue with the statement I described in the post, is that it only shows a tiny aspect of female seduction leaving behind some other important aspects, if only that is left it will not work, all should be in balance.

Your first sentence is debatable. For example, depending on a woman’s needs and wants, she may be more attracted to traditionally beta male qualities, such as comfort and security, instead of traditionally alpha male qualities like
excitement, unpredictability, and adventure. There are other examples, but that is beside the point.

I agree with your second point. There are more factors to female attraction than just what you say to a woman.