"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Sh$t test???

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Hey Mertz no one is asking you to figure it out. The forum can help with that.

But first, it must have been something she did or said that led you to believe or suspect she may have been shyt testing you?

What was it?
I would like your perspective please.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I would like your perspective please.
I agree with what @Clockwerk50 posted:

That is not a **** test. That is simply a change in her level of interest or priorities, but I see it as a test of boundaries. The distinction is that a **** test is meant to provoke a reaction, whereas a boundary is about how you respond to behavior that you don't want to accept. Basically, the boundary here is that you don't want to accept someone making plans with you, failing to communicate a change, and then treating your time as if it is unimportant.
And also what @Divorced w 3 said about silence and distance in this instance.

What is your relationship with her? Are you dating her, is she a plate/fwb or simply a friend?

Regardless, she basically blew you off and you don't reward that with a response imo..

Self-respect and we teach people how to treat us and all that.
 
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@Mertz09 I am gonna modify my response to say it's possible it was a shyt test. She may have been testing your reaction to being blown off or in her eyes a last minute schedule change.

Whether or not you would lose your shyt or react in an overly-emotional way. I have had men react that way to last minute schedule changes and for me it's a big red flag.

I dont know just offering another perspective.

Here though it wasn't just a last minute schedule change with her offering a solid alternative.

She blew off plans followed by an ambiguous "maybe some other time" or something like.

Silence and distance in that type of sitch is still the best thing.
 
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@Mertz09 I am gonna modify my response to say it's possible it was a shyt test. She may have been testing your reaction to being blown off or in her eyes a last minute schedule change.

Whether or not you would lose your shyt or react in an overly-emotional way. I have had men react that way to last minute schedule changes and for me it's a big red flag.

I dont know just offering another perspective.

Here though it wasn't just a last minute schedule change with her offering a solid alternative.

She blew off plans followed by an ambiguous "maybe some other time" or something like.

Silence and distance in that type of sitch is still the best thing.

Thanks SG! There will be no response from me to her text early this morning. The thing that P me off on Saturday was.... So you can't take 30 seconds to call or text me to let me know that you can't make it????? Really??!! I refuse to put up with that BS. And I agree, SG, I think that it was a shyt test and that boundaries will be set.
 

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Yes, Not really a big deal but not her normal responsiveness. I was supposed to help her for a while this Saturday at her house and she sent me text and said she would be home around 1:00, and then at around 1:30 she text that she now would be home at around 2:30. Not a big deal but then at around 5:30 I had not heard from her so I text and ask if she was home yet and her response was that she was but she was getting ready to go out with some girl friends (this is not unusual) and could we get together tomorrow (Sunday) yesterday. My response was "No Problem" The thing that P!ssed me off was that she did not tell me earlier on Saturday. I never heard from her yesterday and I did not reach out to her. So this morning she text me from work "Sorry I had a busy weekend. Let's try to get together sometime"

I have not responded and may not at all.

That is a shyt test in my opinion.

People will treat you the way you allow them to treat you.
"Don't make someone a priority when you're only an option" , This famous quote highlights the importance of your self-worth, self-dignity, self respect and setting boundaries and mutual respect in any relationship.
It means you don't give your time and energy to someone who doesn't value and respect it, and only reaches out to you when it is convenient for them.

Recognising your values means stepping back from connections where commitment and respect does not go both ways.

I agree with the response from other members here; distance and silence are the right course of action.
But the next important step ( when she'll inquire about your silence) is to establish and convey to her your boundaries in a clear direct and non-apologetic manner that what she did was disrespectful and you do not tolerate disrespect from anyone, including her.

Her reaction will go one way only: She'll respect you more for having a backbone, or she'll get pissed off for criticising her bad behaviour.
If she's pissed off - drop her and don't look back.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Just for clarity, is this thread referring to the same widow as your other thread?
Yes it is. She apologized but I didn’t respond to her.
 

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Yes it is. She apologized but I didn’t respond to her.
Since she is also your neighbor, do you ever run into her? If so, I would imagine that must be rather awkward when you're No Contact?

How close a neighbor is she and did her apology sound sincere? Curious what was said?
 

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Thanks SG! There will be no response from me to her text early this morning. The thing that P me off on Saturday was.... So you can't take 30 seconds to call or text me to let me know that you can't make it????? Really??!! I refuse to put up with that BS. And I agree, SG, I think that it was a shyt test and that boundaries will be set.
You already did tho. You aren't fooling her by trying to play a role.
 

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Since she is also your neighbor, do you ever run into her? If so, I would imagine that must be rather awkward when you're No Contact?

How close a neighbor is she and did her apology sound sincere? Curious what was said?
She lives on the same street, 10 houses down. This just happened this past Saturday.,
I am thinking the apology is sincere. So we shall see.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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This thread is painful to read...

I would double down on what the Duke said, and I would also delete her number( I delete women's numbers to prevent myself from being a btchazz and caving when I long for p00sy)

By the way; Did we already think about the possible new bull in the ring?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Could be, but either way, “Sorry” is a total blow off, or low bid response fishing. This is likely over.

Good on OP for staying quiet.
Well not so fast.
Could be, but either way, “Sorry” is a total blow off, or low bid response fishing. This is likely over.

Good on OP for staying quiet.
Well not so fast, As the great Yogi Berra said "It Aint Over Till It's Over"

Yesterday evening around 5:30 she showed up at my front door. She came in and we had a long talk about what had happened and boundaries.
 

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She said the Night
 

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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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