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Posting an update. The thing with Girl 7 cleared itself up, lol. No contact today, so yeah, fortunately, I went for the kiss, got rejected, and got my answer. That girl simply wasn’t interested.

Now I think it’s time to create another number for a girl. This one is going to be number 8.

Girl 8 — “Cold Approach”

I took my dog out for a walk, as I usually do, while reading philosophy on my Kindle. From a distance, I saw this girl in the park walking her beagle. I’m pretty sure I saw her last week and spoke to her briefly, but I was short on time, so it was probably a one-minute conversation at most, without much chit-chat.

Today, though, I got a better look at her, and boy, was she beautiful. Dark-blonde hair, almond-shaped eyes, a sweet smile, thick legs, and a thin frame.

The first time I saw her today, I only glanced at her. I noticed her dog wanted to meet my Chihuahua, but since I hadn’t really paid much attention to her yet, I didn’t think much of it. The second time I saw her, though, I realized she was really cute.

For whatever reason, after I first passed her, she sat down on a bench. Then, as I was getting closer again, I saw her stand up and start walking. She was struggling a little with her dog because it kept trying to reach my Chihuahua, and she also seemed to be walking pretty slowly, so eventually I caught up with her.

I approached her with, “Hey, is there any problem if I let my dog meet yours?”

She answered, “Oh, not at all. It’s okay.”

After that, we started talking. This was when I really got a good look at her and realized she was gorgeous.

While we were talking, I asked her dog’s name and started petting her. I can say with 100% certainty that her dog loved me, lol.

She was also really funny. At one point she told me, “Oh yeah, last week I appeared in an interview here. They were asking something about the smell, but I didn’t understand what they meant, so I told them that the garbage over there sometimes smells really bad. Later, though, I realized they were probably asking about a completely different smell.” I told her, “Look at you, trashing your own park and neighborhood. Are you always like that?” lol.

So we were laughing and having a good conversation.

One thing that caught my attention was that, at one point, she asked me, “So, is this the time you usually take your dog out for a walk?”
I answered, “Yeah. The weather makes it pretty much impossible to come earlier, and unless my job forces me to change my schedule, this is usually my preferred time.”

Then she asked me my dog’s name. His name is kind of a joke, and interestingly, she was one of the few people who actually got it. I told her, “You’re actually one of the few people who gets his name.” We talked for a couple more minutes, and then I said goodbye.

Now, this is where you may agree or disagree with me. You might say, “You should’ve asked her name and asked her out,” and I get it.

However, the last time I rushed things like that, I may have come across as a little desperate. This time, I want to be more patient, let her wonder about me a little, and create some mystery. Although, if you think I’m overthinking it, sure, give me your feedback.

I hope, and honestly think, I’ll see her again this week. That’s the approach I’m leaning toward.

If I see her again tomorrow, I’ll actually ask her name and escalate things a little more. Maybe I’ll even invite her to get ice cream with me, there’s a place right next to the park, and we can walk around together. I'll eventually bring up to the conversation that I'm moving out, and I want to be with her on date before I actually leave (I'm just moving near my job in the same city).

What do you think?

I’m particularly wondering whether her asking what time I usually walk my dog could have been a sign of interest. Obviously, it could also have just been normal conversation, but it definitely caught my attention.

Also, in other news, I’m going to reduce my use of dating apps. I don’t want them to become a crutch.

I basically changed my bio to: “Looking for something casual. If you don’t know what you’re looking for, don’t match with me.”

I know that’s highly polarizing, but I honestly don’t care that much about getting laid through Tinder. If it happens, cool. I’d rather focus more on meeting women through cold approaches or through my existing social circle, and seeing whether I can build an actual connection that way. I'll leave dating apps for casual only.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Thanks, that clarifies things a lot. By the way I have the book mode one by Alan Roger. Is that the one you read?
Yes, of course. I've read the book, in addition to beigne watching his videos on YouTube.

Between him and Mr.Locario, you can't go wrong.
 

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Posting an update. The thing with Girl 7 cleared itself up, lol. No contact today, so yeah, fortunately, I went for the kiss, got rejected, and got my answer. That girl simply wasn’t interested.

Now I think it’s time to create another number for a girl. This one is going to be number 8.

Girl 8 — “Cold Approach”

I took my dog out for a walk, as I usually do, while reading philosophy on my Kindle. From a distance, I saw this girl in the park walking her beagle. I’m pretty sure I saw her last week and spoke to her briefly, but I was short on time, so it was probably a one-minute conversation at most, without much chit-chat.

Today, though, I got a better look at her, and boy, was she beautiful. Dark-blonde hair, almond-shaped eyes, a sweet smile, thick legs, and a thin frame.

The first time I saw her today, I only glanced at her. I noticed her dog wanted to meet my Chihuahua, but since I hadn’t really paid much attention to her yet, I didn’t think much of it. The second time I saw her, though, I realized she was really cute.

For whatever reason, after I first passed her, she sat down on a bench. Then, as I was getting closer again, I saw her stand up and start walking. She was struggling a little with her dog because it kept trying to reach my Chihuahua, and she also seemed to be walking pretty slowly, so eventually I caught up with her.

I approached her with, “Hey, is there any problem if I let my dog meet yours?”

She answered, “Oh, not at all. It’s okay.”

After that, we started talking. This was when I really got a good look at her and realized she was gorgeous.

While we were talking, I asked her dog’s name and started petting her. I can say with 100% certainty that her dog loved me, lol.

She was also really funny. At one point she told me, “Oh yeah, last week I appeared in an interview here. They were asking something about the smell, but I didn’t understand what they meant, so I told them that the garbage over there sometimes smells really bad. Later, though, I realized they were probably asking about a completely different smell.” I told her, “Look at you, trashing your own park and neighborhood. Are you always like that?” lol.

So we were laughing and having a good conversation.

One thing that caught my attention was that, at one point, she asked me, “So, is this the time you usually take your dog out for a walk?”
I answered, “Yeah. The weather makes it pretty much impossible to come earlier, and unless my job forces me to change my schedule, this is usually my preferred time.”

Then she asked me my dog’s name. His name is kind of a joke, and interestingly, she was one of the few people who actually got it. I told her, “You’re actually one of the few people who gets his name.” We talked for a couple more minutes, and then I said goodbye.

Now, this is where you may agree or disagree with me. You might say, “You should’ve asked her name and asked her out,” and I get it.

However, the last time I rushed things like that, I may have come across as a little desperate. This time, I want to be more patient, let her wonder about me a little, and create some mystery. Although, if you think I’m overthinking it, sure, give me your feedback.

I hope, and honestly think, I’ll see her again this week. That’s the approach I’m leaning toward.

If I see her again tomorrow, I’ll actually ask her name and escalate things a little more. Maybe I’ll even invite her to get ice cream with me, there’s a place right next to the park, and we can walk around together. I'll eventually bring up to the conversation that I'm moving out, and I want to be with her on date before I actually leave (I'm just moving near my job in the same city).

What do you think?

I’m particularly wondering whether her asking what time I usually walk my dog could have been a sign of interest. Obviously, it could also have just been normal conversation, but it definitely caught my attention.

Also, in other news, I’m going to reduce my use of dating apps. I don’t want them to become a crutch.

I basically changed my bio to: “Looking for something casual. If you don’t know what you’re looking for, don’t match with me.”

I know that’s highly polarizing, but I honestly don’t care that much about getting laid through Tinder. If it happens, cool. I’d rather focus more on meeting women through cold approaches or through my existing social circle, and seeing whether I can build an actual connection that way. I'll leave dating apps for casual only.
Mode 2 type shiit^.

Bro, did you say elsewhere you're looking for a LTR?
 

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Yes, of course. I've read the book, in addition to beigne watching his videos on YouTube.

Between him and Mr.Locario, you can't go wrong.
Thank, I'll take a look after I finish processing some things from master Pook and sensei Anti-Dump.
 

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Mode 2 type shiit^.

Bro, did you say elsewhere you're looking for a LTR?
Here on the forum or tinder? Here on the forum, I think I have said it a couple of times, my goal is an LTR. However, because of the experience I've been getting on dating apps I'll just leave that exclusively for casual ****. When I say my goal is an LTR of course I mean the girl has to pass my filters, I'm not saying it in a "what should I do to get her?" way, rather a "what should this girl prove to me, to bring her to an LTR".
 

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Here on the forum or tinder? Here on the forum, I think I have said it a couple of times, my goal is an LTR.
Gotcha. I would caution against LTR for a couple reasons, but hey, if that's what you wanna do..go for it.

My only word of advice for your quest, would be to (obviously) choose wisely...and check & screen any potential mates for their early cooperation/compliance/obedience.

Man, if they check off those blocks, what do we call it?

High INTEREST. :up:

However, because of the experience I've been getting on dating apps I'll just leave that exclusively for casual ****. When I say my goal is an LTR of course I mean the girl has to pass my filters, I'm not saying it in a "what should I do to get her?" way, rather a "what should this girl prove to me, to bring her to an LTR".
I co-sign :up:.

Good luck to you.
 

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Gotcha. I would caution against LTR for a couple reasons, but hey, if that's what you wanna do..go for it.

My only word of advice for your quest, would be to (obviously) choose wisely...and check & screen any potential mates for their early cooperation/compliance/obedience.

Man, if they check off those blocks, what do we call it?

High INTEREST. :up:



I co-sign :up:.

Good luck to you.
Thank you! I've learned a couple of things from your approach.
 

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Girl 2: She answered a message I sent her a week later with “HAHAHAAHAHA.” **** that **** lol. Does she think I’m going to orbit around her and keep offering dates after that kind of behavior? Lol.

Girl 4: Resuscitated out of nowhere.

She’s the chick from my work training that I asked out. She told me she was busy, but that maybe later would be a good idea. I stopped messaging her afterward because I sensed things were cold and that there wasn’t much interest.

Well, yesterday I shared a story on WhatsApp, and she replied with a playful message about it. I started teasing her, we started having fun over text, and we ended up messaging each other for about an hour. It was, frankly, pretty ****ing flirtatious. She was investing hard into the conversation, and I matched her interest.

Today we had training again after a three-week lapse. Coincidentally, while I was walking toward the meeting room, she was also getting out of her car, so I said, “Hi, how are you?” We talked briefly and went inside. I didn't sit next to her this time because the place was already a little crowded.

When the training ended, I waited outside for a female friend I drive to the subway. She’s a lot older than me, I think she’s close to 60, so there’s obviously no game there. Girl 4 also came outside. I noticed that instead of walking straight to her car, she sat down on a bench near me. I interpreted that as a pretty obvious “approach me,” so I did.

We talked for maybe two minutes, and she gave me a candy, but then my colleague arrived and I had to say goodbye.

I texted her afterward:

“Lucky for you my friend saved you. I was ready to start bullying you nonstop. And the candy was nice, but not enough to buy peace.”

That’s basically been our dynamic yesterday and today: she’s nagging me because I live a fun life, and I’m telling her she cannot, and should not, try to control me lol.

It would probably be a good idea to ask her out again, but this week is going to be ****ing complicated because of work. Basically, I only have Sunday free, and I also have a bunch of **** to pack. So I guess she’ll have to wait.

Girl 8: ****, I was excited about this one, but I haven't been able to see her to ask her out again. With some luck, I might catch her today in the park.

Girl 9: New chick from Tinder.

Remember how my approach changed a little? Well, I’m getting more matches partly because my bio basically says, “Avoid matching me if you don’t have a clue what you want, or if you’re too afraid to acknowledge it,” along with a couple of other things.

Getting burned on dates made me stop giving much of a ****, honestly. So now I basically look to get rejected as a way of separating the wheat from the chaff. I also convey sexuality in my bio, which this girl actually responded to.

And she is CUTE.

She even sent me the first message, and I couldn't help myself:

“My God, you have one of the most beautiful smiles I have ever seen. No ****ing kidding about this.”

I’m really not kidding. Her smile is REALLY ****ING PRETTY.

She told me, “To be honest, I also loved your smile and your face.”

The downside is that she lives pretty far away from me, and I’m not repeating the same ****ing fiasco I had with the other chick. If I’m going all the way there, there needs to be clear mutual interest and a real reason for me to make the trip. I’m not doing another situation where I invest a bunch of time and effort only to find out there was never anything there.

We already exchanged numbers and moved the conversation to WhatsApp, and the tone has been sexual.

This chick even asked me:

“What are you looking for on Tinder? OMG, this is so weird. It’s always me who gets asked this question, and now I’m asking you.”

I said:

“Lol, nothing serious. Not at the moment. If things evolve into something more relevant, I guess that’s okay. If not, I don’t care.”

And she answered:

“VERY GOOD.”

And that’s it.

A couple of things I wrote in my commonplace:


> Be yourself. Be unapologetic about it. In fact, don't be afraid of your desires, your masculinity, or how you convey them. Seek to be rejected, because the woman who doesn't reject you is the one who likes you for who you are, and not for some facade or trick.
Also... I saw this video of the Australian teenager who threw the big party mentioned in The Rational Male. I couldn't help but notice how similar I was to that mofo when I was that age.

I even sent the video to a female friend of mine from that era, and she said, “Lol, you actually were like that.”

Looking at that dude was helpful in a way, because it helped me reconnect with a version of myself from the past that has always been there. The same version of me that helped me get laid before. The same version that helped me navigate school and get the hottest girl in my classroom twice. The same version that helped me drive toward the hotel and bang my ex on the second date.

And I connected to it.

I felt empowered, almost like I suddenly remembered that the power had always been inside me.

It’s hard to explain. I just feel aroused by women, I want to play, I want to have fun, and I don't give much of a **** about the outcome. I don't even particularly care about having them in my life. I just want to go out, do fun ****, not be annoyed, and enjoy myself.

The idea of being in a relationship right now actually gives me goosebumps.

A girl I was chatting with even asked me, “What do you want to do?”

And I just said:

“IDK. I want to do fun **** with you. You in?”

And she was like:

“Yes.”
 

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I asked girl 4 out again for this Sunday. I’ll let you friends know if anything happens. It’s smelling like a Lay Report. Not sure if on that date, but it’s gonna happen eventually.
 
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