Womens Past

[BaronOfHair]

Pays to research anyone and everyone one brings into his life, women included

 

[Prepostereax]

These are the main red flags:

How much should a womans past affect you? If you are dating one person. For example the girl im seeing admitted to me that she had a threesome with 2 men when she was high on coke and drunk. She claims it wasnt entirely consensual as she wasnt in her senses but I feel like thats what all women say to write off past mistakes. Thoughts?

Someone who doesn't take responsibility for their own actions is not someone to be trusted

Also that she keeps a record of the event is telling

The 3sum thing depends entirely on individual mores, but sounds like a deal breaker for you

 

[Cartopis84]

Or, dude went through her phone and she legitimately feels bad that she made an immature mistake?

Notice that he’s dodging all of us on answering the question on how he acquired the texts. She obviously didn’t offer it up.

Nah didnt go through phone, she was showing me a chat and it was discussed there and she hadnt realized

 

[Cartopis84]

I agree he should break up with her as it's clear he doesn't trust her or he wouldn't have snooped her phone in the first place.

Also, even now after she told him it was non-consensual due to being drunk at a party, he doesn't believe her.

So yeah there is zero trust there regardless of whatever she did as a teenager in HS after having too much to drink.

What I don't understand is categorizing her as a hoe, a 304 or whatever other derogatory names.

I could understand if this was a pattern of behavior as an adult. But a one-time lack of judgment after too much to drink in HS which was not even fully consensual for which she regrets and hopefully learned from?

That justifies deeming her a "hoe"?

What am I missing?

Also has 15+ people she slept with in the span of 6 months last year

 

[Cartopis84]

Sounds like manipulative behavior.


Sometimes something either bothers you or it doesnt, sometimes there is no middle ground. If it bothers you so much, she might not even be worth it as a plate. Might as well cut your losses and be better off spending that time and mental energy on fishing for new prospects.

I think so... I mean I knew she was in "love with me" before this incident as she had alluded to it, but in the week since then she has been extra emotional crying and telling me she loves meand is scared to lose me etc. Like constantly. Like 20 times plus a day saying shes in love etc its a bit unhinged and everything was normal a week back. Saying "she would do anything for me and wouldnt know what to do without me in her life etc" which makes me feel kind of bad for her.

 

[zekko]

Past behaviour is best predictor of future behaviour. So there's that.

People CAN change, but more often than not that statement is true.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Nah didnt go through phone, she was showing me a chat and it was discussed there and she hadnt realized

I don’t see how this change anything. There’s no reason you needed to entice her in any way to read her phone. If she offered it, you should have simply declined.

I see what you’re trying to do here and it’s manipulative. You’re trying to make it out that this woman is unhinged but there’s no way to get around it, you sat there and read her private communication. No matter how you try to paint it, that was deeply insecure and now you can’t handle what you found out.

It sounds like the both of you need to do serious internal work.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

Also has 15+ people she slept with in the span of 6 months last year

Wtf. That´s too much c0ck, bro. That´s like almost three new c0cks a month on average.

This girl has been riding the c0ck carousel like the world is gonna end but wants to go exclusive with you. Aint that convenient?

Its like a cow giving away the milk for free to Chad, Tyrone, Juan Camaney, Hiroshi, Ragnar, etc. Tres doritos despues gives you a free sample but now you have to pay for it going forward.

Dont walk away from her, rather RUN away as fast as you can in the opposite direction. Im invested now, keep us updated.

Saying "she would do anything for me and wouldnt know what to do without me in her life etc" which makes me feel kind of bad for her.

Again, manipulative behavior. Of course she is trying to make you feel bad, that´s the point. If you leave her, its gonna be hard to find an idiot who doesnt mind her high notch count and threesome.

 

[pipeman84]

For example the girl im seeing admitted to me that she had a threesome with 2 men when she was high on coke and drunk.

Also has 15+ people she slept with in the span of 6 months last year

Why are you still seeing her? Want to play Captain Save a Hoe or what?

 

[justaroundthecorner]

For marriage type - virgin or only 1 guy before you
LTR 2-4 guys
STR - 5+ guys
ONS only - 9+ guys

Guys that try to tell other guys that body count on women does not matter and that "you are little man to worry about that" are either compenstating about body count of their current partner or are morons or left-wing cuck/soyboyz pretending to be alpha online. Lowest body count on woman = best relationship. Always. If someone tells you something else, mark the previous sentence.

Also, if you are a "builder" type (you like to upgrade all areas of your life) you will find out that the best looking women are in 98% of cases poor material for marriage or LTR partners because they get IOIs all the time and most of them are accustomed (eventually) to receive various types of favours from men and are also less ambitious than other females (that need to rely more on intelligence) - so unless you are incredibly high value guy, you will soon need to either play the provider role (which will undermine your "builder" tendencies) or you will constantly need to keep other guys in check - and even if you are high value guy, your beautiful woman may eventually leave you out of boredom.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@Cartopis84 "She claims it wasnt entirely consensual as she wasnt in her senses but I feel like thats what all women say to write off past mistakes. Thoughts?"

Ask her how she defines "semi-consent", then share her answer with us here. I'm sure I'm hardly alone, in wondering: "How is such an act not entirely consensual? Either they forced dope and booze into her, or she willingly got plastered and doesn't remember what happened very clearly or at all"

 

[Prepostereax]

Haha, how did you arrive at this number?
This is what she admits to?

Also has 15+ people she slept with in the span of 6 months last year

We all know how hoe math works:
* bj's don't count
* neither does anal
* how do you even count 3sums etc
* "nonconsensual" stuff definitely doesn't count
* and how can I possibly count it if I can't even remember his name??
* ditto if I never knew his name to begin with

All this is neither here nor there.
Personal morals etc
What's more of issue is that you didn't register her drinking and drug usage as a walking red flag.

Which makes me wonder if you aren't partaking of uppers & downers yourself

No judgement, it's a recreational phase..
I'm sure the sex is fantastic
But keep everything "recreational", including women, whilst your capacity for rational thought may be impaired.

Don't do anything with permanent implications

I think so... I mean I knew she was in "love with me" before this incident as she had alluded to it, but in the week since then she has been extra emotional crying and telling me she loves meand is scared to lose me etc. Like constantly. Like 20 times plus a day saying shes in love etc its a bit unhinged and everything was normal a week back. Saying "she would do anything for me and wouldnt know what to do without me in her life etc" which makes me feel kind of bad for her.

..such as her accidentally on purpose getting pregnant

 

[Doctor Europeo]

@Cartopis84 You havent updated us. Hopefully you are too busy kicking her to the curb.

 

[Gamisch]

I see some laughter here and there and its all fun and games , I get it.

But these types of threads are the realest imo...

I keep saying that the women who are most receptive to game, are the biggest trouble. Now let me add that all womem present some kind of problem, but the easier ones even more so. Easy come easy go. Once I realized this I finally found peace with some of my past bad choices.

And sex is a powerful thing...after hitting it ( raw) , chemicals will do their job...we can all laugh but if OP,s girl is cute, booty , a fun conversation AND good in bed?.. ANY man can fall for this at ANY moment..even experienced players.

OP's best way to go about this is to listen to the forum. Dump her and LEARN that women like this are recreational use only. If you fo however wanna be stubborn, I'd say go ahead ! She will teach you a couple of harsh life lessons that you might need...

 

[Gamisch]

I don’t see how this change anything. There’s no reason you needed to entice her in any way to read her phone. If she offered it, you should have simply declined.

I see what you’re trying to do here and it’s manipulative. You’re trying to make it out that this woman is unhinged but there’s no way to get around it, you sat there and read her private communication. No matter how you try to paint it, that was deeply insecure and now you can’t handle what you found out.

It sounds like the both of you need to do serious internal work.

Cmon now.

So you're dating a woman, she shows you a text with somewhere a really significant detail she hasn't told you about. You can't blame dude for actually paying attention . Imo this is not necessarily about integrity.

HOWEVER...

I do believe that an experienced man wouldn't be surprised by anything like this. Most women will have done something in their life with some man or men that would make your spine shiver.

Im at a stage right now where I genuinely dgaf. I protect myself by thinking all women are guilty untill proven innocence. She can try to convince me she is different/ not like that by ACTION ONLY.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

all women are guilty untill proven innocence. She can try to convince me she is different/ not like that by ACTION ONLY.

This. I like this.

 

[Barrister]

I see some laughter here and there and its all fun and games , I get it.

But these types of threads are the realest imo...

I keep saying that the women who are most receptive to game, are the biggest trouble. Now let me add that all womem present some kind of problem, but the easier ones even more so. Easy come easy go. Once I realized this I finally found peace with some of my past bad choices.

And sex is a powerful thing...after hitting it ( raw) , chemicals will do their job...we can all laugh but if OP,s girl is cute, booty , a fun conversation AND good in bed?.. ANY man can fall for this at ANY moment..even experienced players.

OP's best way to go about this is to listen to the forum. Dump her and LEARN that women like this are recreational use only. If you fo however wanna be stubborn, I'd say go ahead ! She will teach you a couple of harsh life lessons that you might need...

I don’t think it is necessarily difficult to keep any woman at arms length (even if hot) so long as you have multiple women in your rotation and you aren’t fixating on one.

If you’re only seeing one woman and are having sex with said woman on a regular basis, not only is it easy to get complacent about meeting more women but your brain also begins subconsciously making you feel attached to that one woman. It becomes harder to disentangle yourself mentally than if you have a rotation that stops your brain from the association to one person.

 

[Gamisch]

I don’t think it is necessarily difficult to keep any woman at arms length (even if hot) so long as you have multiple women in your rotation and you aren’t fixating on one.

If you’re only seeing one woman and are having sex with said woman on a regular basis, not only is it easy to get complacent about meeting more women but your brain also begins subconsciously making you feel attached to that one woman. It becomes harder to disentangle yourself mentally than if you have a rotation that stops your brain from the association to one person.

I agree. Yet, women are naturally gifted at keeping a man from building a rotation.

And with most men more than ever being in scarcity, its not unthinkable that most dudes will try to hang on for dear life on that one piece of p00sy the get..building and maintaining a rotation is still top level player shyte. Most men will die without ever experiencing such a thing.

I geuss in this specific case,that OP lacks the fundamental knowledge and perhaps even awareness of the consequences and challenges that this woman will present.

We've all tried to make a h0e a housewife at some point..and got burned for it.

 

[BadBoy89]

Over 2 years before we met, and she didnt tell but I found out which made her cry etc and say it was not consensual

I believed you until you said "made her cry etc"

The "etc" destroyed your credibility.