Ok i get it some you are young guys you just wanna go out and get laid. So you probs dont get it or its not relevant for you, because if a guy just wants notches and a girls says to him jump up and down like monkey and make a fool out of yourself he will do it to get laid and then they can come here and say they have many many notches.
I understand this is hyperbole, but getting laid by giving women what they want is exactly what seduction is...
Do they want to sleep with the out-of-shape guy who dresses poorly, isn't fun, and doesn't know how to talk to women?
No, they want to sleep with the good-looking, fit, fun guy who has the balls to approach her and guide her to the bedroom.
Like another poster commented alot of women these days racking up the notchesand they dont have time to waste they just want it on tap when they want it no drama nothing complicated so once they get a 'type' or process they tend to stick to that. But it also means when that culture or process or trend chancges those guys following that or recipients will end up with nothing.
Oh, so women want sex without drama, too? Who would've thought...
Now look at all the big PUAs from 20yrs ago. What happened to them. They burned out and had little to show for it. This is because they werent learning long term skills, knowledged or attraction, they were just playing to the immediate cultural trend of how to get laid that worked then. Girls sleep woith guys just because they are a type. say young, fresh, energetic, whatever the the man grows and he no longer gets that then he has nothing. So far BPH is just this guy.
Many of those guys built their success around gimmicks, exaggerated their results, and were flamboyant and corny.
There was an episode on Channel 5 with Andrew Callahan where he went to a PUA bootcamp under this guy named Vince Kelvin in Las Vegas. The guy brags about his "makeout count" and approaches women, asking them whether they should make out in the first few seconds of an interaction.
The reason these guys aren't successful today is that we entered the digital age, where people could fact-check them, and they were no longer the only testimony to their own authority.
What happened to those PUAs from 20yrs ago it will happen to you. Most of them fared very badly in life. Women are not giving casual lays in big numbers to masculine guys i know this, they are giving it to men who put vagina on a pedestal and those are nearly all losers in life because vagina led them to being nothing. It is only an illusion that you are something special all if it can dry up in a second and then what happened to all you skill knowledge and masculinity. You will find it was all sham.
Women are casually sleeping with masculine guys who are socially adjusted, lead, and provide them with a good time. I am a testament to that. If you define "taking her on a date" as "putting vagina on a pedestal", then sure, that can be your prerogative.
You can worry about this future potential for failure, or you can be optimistic, because you know you can adjust as times change.
Nearly every guy I know who was getting easy lays ONS etc without learning long term attraction or other masculine traits ended up after a few years say into mid30s a big time loser and not doing well with womenor life. It is because they are being given something not that they earned it or won it.
I've had long-term relationships. Funny enough, my longest "relationships" have been with girls I see as friends with benefits. I think you're confusing "not looking for it" as "incapable of having it".
As far as "being given something they hadn't earned", you are so very wrong here...go read my journal, read how I used to behave and act. What is required to "earn" the right to sleep with a bunch of women?
Is it approaching and getting rejected thousands and thousands of times?
Is it experiencing painful heartbreak again and again?
Is it going to the gym 5 times per week, for almost 2 hours, while eating the same foods every day for years?
I remember when the switch flipped, and I decided "f*** this" to my past circumstances: I had a crush on this girl, and this guy told me he was thinking of asking her out. I told him that I was interested in her, and his response was "Well, you gotta admit, I have a better chance than you". That was what made me realize that women did not perceive me the way I wanted them to, and that I had to make changes, which I did.
If it's good enough for these women, why is it not good enough for you?
Are we're takking about the love for women or the love for p00sy?
Love for women.
You can love the sex, and I sure do, but if that's the only thing you can fixate on, you become resentful when you don't get it.
Here's a perfect example of what I mean:
https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/lr-110.285981/post-3189731
This was a girl I had already slept with, who showed up at the same bar that night, drunk off her a**, after ghosting me via text, following our first hookup and following date. That night, despite her ghosting me, she was happy to see me, and apologetic - both for ghosting me and for being so drunk. I ended up taking her home, helping her into her apartment, comforted her when she got sick, made sure she had plenty of water, helped her into bed, and spent the night.
I did not go into that situation expecting to get laid. I was just helping someone I cared about.
Now, in the morning, when she did feel better, we did have sex, but the point I'm trying to make is that wasn't the reason I did what I did the night before. Despite how she had treated me in the past, I did not hold that against her in the present.
You can realize how women can be little devils, and love them anyway.
