Crazy statistics: college educated women initiate 90%(!!!!) of divorces...

[Gamisch]

You have a better chance of winning at the roulette table than to be in a successful marriage lol.

I geuss the number one reason is because men who do get married actually want it WAY more than women...

Eventually the man thinks he can ride it out, while the woman plots her escape.

Your thoughts?

 

[Divorced w 3]

Have humility. Date women that have similar personality and believes as you. Have fun with them. My high school girlfriend, my college girlfriend, even my ex wife would have gone the distance if I had not ended things. At 41 I’ve really taken a look internally. Just stay humble.

 

[Scaramouche]

At 41 I’ve really taken a look internally. Just stay humble.

No Bvgger that for a game of tin soldiers,the meek may well inherit the Earth,but only after the strong have walked all over us,and taken what they want.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Have humility. Date women that have similar personality and believes as you. Have fun with them. My high school girlfriend, my college girlfriend, even my ex wife would have gone the distance if I had not ended things. At 41 I’ve really taken a look internally. Just stay humble.

For a visual on this, watch Sly on Netflix and listen to Stallone describe Rocky. It’ll bring a tear to your eye.

 

[Manure Spherian]

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You have a better chance of winning at the roulette table than to be in a successful marriage lol.

I geuss the number one reason is because men who do get married actually want it WAY more than women...

Eventually the man thinks he can ride it out, while the woman plots her escape.

Your thoughts?

They also initiate 90% of divorces involving children.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Women initiate 70-90% of all divorces because they are HORRIBLE at choosing men. They will bypass solid guys for the tall and/or exciting guy and then realize they have nothing in common or were just fantasizing.

All women know they will win BIG in almost any divorce too. Throw in the fact a HB5 can set up a OLD account and have 100 messages by lunchtime and women today normalize cheating and affairs and you have your perfect storm. So often, they divorce the man and then start their cycle of poor choices all over again. It's sad.

I'm convinced after many relationships and years of dating that women are biologically programmed to be unhappy as a defense mechanism and means of being ultra ultra selective to the point they're never happy with any choice they make.

 

[corrector]

That is a high-percentage. Is this legally initiated divorces or does it mean "at fault" as to why a divorce happened regardless of who legally started the process? A divorce is usually clean-up of something that was already broken up beyond repair, which usually invovles one side who is being unreasonably difficult or refusing to reconcile.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Statistically, uni educated women pursue degrees in the humanities, and the humanities went what we today call "Woke" back in The 1960s. What you mentioned there is less surprising than learning The Church's insistence on folks producing a bazillion offspring has been instrumental in keeping Latin America and Sub-Saharan Africa dirt poor

 

[viking22]

Women initiate 70-90% of all divorces because they are HORRIBLE at choosing men. They will bypass solid guys for the tall and/or exciting guy and then realize they have nothing in common or were just fantasizing.

All women know they will win BIG in almost any divorce too. Throw in the fact a HB5 can set up a OLD account and have 100 messages by lunchtime and women today normalize cheating and affairs and you have your perfect storm. So often, they divorce the man and then start their cycle of poor choices all over again. It's sad.

I'm convinced after many relationships and years of dating that women are biologically programmed to be unhappy as a defense mechanism and means of being ultra ultra selective to the point they're never happy with any choice they make.

I think this is a bit backwards. Women marry solid guys because for most of them the exciting guys won't commit or are unable to provide for them. In most cases they initiate divorces because they married a man they never loved and eventually reach a point in which they want out.
Society has changed in such a way that divorce is a much easier out with little in the way of negative repercussions.

 

[The Duke]

So who is the initiator when she wants a divorce, but he files the legal documents? I've always wondered what the definition of "initiating divorce" exactly meant. Is it the one who files the paper work at the court house?

Does it really matter who initiates? You telling me you want to stay with some unhappy woman that doesn't want you?

Filing papers is women's work anyways! LMAO

This stat just doesn't hold water with me. It makes no difference. By that point the two don't want to be around each other anyways.

 

[Dash Riprock]

I think this is a bit backwards. Women marry solid guys because for most of them the exciting guys won't commit or are unable to provide for them. In most cases they initiate divorces because they married a man they never loved and eventually reach a point in which they want out.
Society has changed in such a way that divorce is a much easier out with little in the way of negative repercussions.

I also agree with this. Two things can be true at once. This is side #2 of my post: a woman can't land a top 10% man so they "settle" for whatever they can get. Then, after a few years, they realize they were never in love with the guy and divorce him. Add all this up, sides 1 and 2, and you get women filing for 70-90% of all divorces.

There is a very slim subset (1-5%) where the marriage happens for all the right reasons, both partners are generally happy, know how to communicate, etc., and they stay together. But this is extremely rare, like betting the 100-1 longshot at the horse track. Only rather than a $2 bet, you're betting what will likely affect you for the rest of your life and can destroy you on multiple levels in the short term.

 

[Pumax]

if I had not ended things.

It was actually You, or just them behaving in a bad way making you think about that?
You're talking about "familiarity" with these women since you knew from a long time

Women initiate 70-90% of all divorces because they are HORRIBLE at choosing men. They will bypass solid guys for the tall and/or exciting guy and then realize they have nothing in common or were just fantasizing.

Agree but they're not horrible... they're wired to be faithful to their emotions. The real deal is actually to find one who's "good" at choosing men.
And this come to

In most cases they initiate divorces because they married a man they never loved and eventually reach a point in which they want out.

This is also true.
The real question for us men: how do you know You find a good one when She chose You?

 

[Bible_Belt]

The initiator is the one who files for divorce. The legal term is petitioner. Every US state changed to no-fault divorce a long time ago.

As a side note, the female spouse will often get an order of protection from her husband before filing divorce. In my state at least, protective orders are rubber stamped with no proof at all required, and the other side gets no notice or chance to defend themselves. The guy just comes home from work and the sheriff is waiting for him to tell him he has to get out of his house for 30 days. In my state, you also are not allowed to touch a firearm while the subject of a protective order. The order gets the husband out of the house and away from the kids. It sets up the wife to retain possession of the home and primary custody of the children after the divorce.

 

[viking22]

I think the only solution is just to make it clear from the outset that you don't believe in marriage. It will be a dealbreaker for a lot of women. But a lot of these women have an agenda anyway. They want the expensive wedding and honeymoon, they are facing pressure from their family/friends to get married, they want kids, they want the status and social security net that comes from having a rich or at least financially stable husband, but oftentimes they don't actually really want you! And you'll note that women are often the ones initiating marriages as well as divorces sometimes by giving ultimatums, sometimes by dropping big hints, sometimes by getting pregnant on purpose etc.

It just makes no sense to enter into a legal contract that rewards breach of contract.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@viking22 "I think the only solution is just to make it clear from the outset that you don't believe in marriage"

Better yet:

-We can have a tooth and nail political fight to get the government out of marriage entirely https://reason.com/2017/10/21/getting-the-state-out-of-marri/

-Encourage more of our fellow men to serve HER the papers first, the moment she ceases to be anything but entertaining

 

[Divorced w 3]

@viking22 "I think the only solution is just to make it clear from the outset that you don't believe in marriage"

Better yet:

-We can have a tooth and nail political fight to get the government out of marriage entirely https://reason.com/2017/10/21/getting-the-state-out-of-marri/

-Encourage more of our fellow men to serve HER the papers first, the moment she ceases to be anything but entertaining

I served her first and I assure you it does nothing technically. She will develop a narrative just like you will.

 

[Pumax]

But a lot of these women have an agenda anyway. They want the expensive wedding and honeymoon, they are facing pressure from their family/friends to get married, they want kids, they want the status and social security net that comes from having a rich or at least financially stable husband, but oftentimes they don't actually really want you! And you'll note that women are often the ones initiating marriages as well as divorces sometimes by giving ultimatums, sometimes by dropping big hints, sometimes by getting pregnant on purpose etc.

Hey man!
You've a clear view, and You're so wise.

Could that be summed up with:
Women want to feel in a specific way, society and other women tell them they should feel.
When they fell that way, everything looks fine.
When they don't, you'll know

 

[The Duke]

There is a very large segment of women that are never satisfied.

First they want a solid guy, then they want an engagement ring, then they want marriage, then they want kids, then they want a house, then they want vacations. You know what they want next?......a divorce.

Its the nature of the beast. They are rarely happy for long and need to be in a constant state of flux with their emotional feelings. They are rarely content. I think its why they all have hormonal cycles and periods and its a good thing.

My advice is to understand marriage does not last forever. So when you are ready to settle down then pick a solid girl, commit, but tell her you are never going to marry. If she leaves because you wouldn't marry her then she was never into you enough to start with. I've tested that a few times.

Society no longer shames women when for failed marriages and having mulitiple sexual partners. The church has less control as well. Social media is over here painting a fake picture of how everyones life is better than hers. The government is against the man and for the woman.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Its the nature of the beast. They are rarely happy for long and need to be in a constant state of flux with their emotional feelings. They are rarely content. I think it's why they all have hormonal cycles and periods and it's a good thing.

They also need to have a purpose. An idle woman with too much time on her hands is a ticking time bomb. Women think than an ideal lifestyle involves spending your days shopping, going to the spa, and gossiping with your girlfriends while sipping lattes and wine. But I can promise you that no a single woman who leads that kind of life feels content, let alone happy. On the contrary, they are all on antidepressants.

 

[Gamisch]

I think the only solution is just to make it clear from the outset that you don't believe in marriage. It will be a dealbreaker for a lot of women. But a lot of these women have an agenda anyway. They want the expensive wedding and honeymoon, they are facing pressure from their family/friends to get married, they want kids, they want the status and social security net that comes from having a rich or at least financially stable husband, but oftentimes they don't actually really want you! And you'll note that women are often the ones initiating marriages as well as divorces sometimes by giving ultimatums, sometimes by dropping big hints, sometimes by getting pregnant on purpose etc.

It just makes no sense to enter into a legal contract that rewards breach of contract.

Yeah, it's like fighting a tiger with bare hands; because most people know it's statically impossible, the flex becomes even bigger IF you are such an übermensch/ mahn that you can defy the rules and statistics and " make it work".

Lately I've seen a surprising amount of men getting married. Mind you, NONE of them were good with women and did it the Disney way, by actually being the Disney prince; all of them were men who severely struggled with women and then found one crazy enough to marry them. No or very short cohabitation, tons of disrespect early on , and yet they tried to fix it with a ring.

Men also don't talk about struggles in their marriages, thus they take away their own ability to get solid and honest feedback / advice. They'll pretend like it's all fine until she drops the bomb on them