Why are some women so hard to game whereas others aren't?

[JST8828]

I'm one of the few remaining unmarried men out of my group of friends. Recently I've been taking note of something thats been right in front of my face for years. A few close friends of mine, two to be exact, ended up marrying some decent looking women that I'd put around the HB6.5 mark. To put it simply- these two friends are the exact opposite of pickup artists and only understood some very small fundamentals of the game. They weren't complete AFC's, but they never ever got into issues when dating the women they eventually married.

The women they married though, specifically, were women who from the start just seemed completely focused on wanting a relationship and unless the guys did something completely stupid, this was just going to happen. From the outside looking in at the time, it was as if these were typical made for each other types of couples where from day one it was a good match and the rest just fell into place without much struggle. Eventually they had kids as well and all has been good. Again, I can tell you for a fact that these guys did NOT use any serious pickup or gaming when trying to woo these chicks into relationships.

So my question is- why are some women out there like this, where they essentially seem to be honest, pure and genuine in giving you a chance without any BS along the way, whereas others you have to seemingly do everything under the sun from building attraction the right way and texting the right things, where one little thing might trigger them to being turned off? I also do not think it's such a generational thing. In recent years I've dealt with women who were in their late 30s and then early 30s for example. All of them seem to need to be gamed correctly.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@JST8828 "A few close friends of mine, two to be exact, ended up marrying some decent looking women that I'd put around the HB6.5 mark. To put it simply- these two friends are the exact opposite of pickup artists and only understood some very small fundamentals of the game. They weren't complete AFC's, but they never ever got into issues when dating the women they eventually married"

You're essentially pondering: "How did the general manager of my neighborhood Target rise to such heights?", instead of asking men at the EXECUTIVE level: "How did you progress this far?"

Unless you're content to settle for acquisitions which are "decent", be prepared to put in extra effort

 

[BeExcellent]

Listen guys. Some woman out there is wanting to get with you. Now. Maybe you are not attracted to the women who are in fact actually interested in you.....but can you attract the women you find attractive?

My grandmother was very wise. Her mantra was this:

Choose from the men who choose you. Simple.

As a man, choose from the women who choose you as a man. Easy.

That is what your friends did. They took an honest/objective inventory of their market value, and they picked a girl who wanted them. Simple. Everybody is happy & gets on with life.

They weren't running themselves ragged trying to convince (perhaps hotter) girls who were "Meh" about them to give them the time of day.

And as a result they are building happy lives and not enmeshed in dating drama.

Something to be said for that.

 

[viking22]

Agree this is how it happens for a lot of men.

But it is far more likely to happen in a social circle dynamic and generally at a younger age. Most of my friends who got married did so by around 30 and with long term girlfriends who "chose" them in this manner generally at college.

Online it doesn't work so well because even average looking women get thousands of matches so they don't choose men in the same way because they the illusion of choice on these apps is there is always someone better around the corner. There is still an aspect of this dynamic in that they have to like you to swipe right, make some kind of effort to keep a conversation going, and agree to a date etc. But it is far less powerful and enduring and generally required dating down to a much greater extent.

Also there is a bit of adverse selection going on because the women who really want relationships make their choices at relatively young ages so the 30 something women left in the dating pool are a lot pickier and will only choose a guy way out of their league.

 

[Sega Genesis]

My grandmother was very wise. Her mantra was this:

Choose from the men who choose you. Simple.

As a man, choose from the women who choose you as a man. Easy.

In other words (which is my mantra) "you and she choose each other"!

 

[zekko]

A few close friends of mine, two to be exact, ended up marrying some decent looking women that I'd put around the HB6.5 mark. To put it simply- these two friends are the exact opposite of pickup artists and only understood some very small fundamentals of the game. They weren't complete AFC's, but they never ever got into issues when dating the women they eventually married.

I think it should be remembered that a lot of the tactics that were popularized during the PUA era were designed specifically for one night stands and/or to bang a lot of women in a rotation, not to get into a LTR. Some aspects are necessary for attracting women for any purpose though, like remembering that neediness and weakness is never a good look on a men - strength, stability, and competence are.

 

[BeExcellent]

In other words (which is my mantra) "you and she choose each other"!

Exactly.

 

[BaronOfHair]

The world's filled with gals like this
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/17Zu2wE9qr/ , who swear:

"I don't care what others think... I turn the camera on, decked out in such finery, for the express purpose of enjoying the breeze, not(in large part anyway) to attract male attention and admiration, during the brief period in every woman's life during which that's easiest to acquire". They're more comely versions of fellas who insist that they're Going Their Own Way, despite the fact that they all look(beer gunts, scraggly neckbeards, unkempt manes), speak, and behave remarkably similarly

"Gaming" women so remarkably unself-aware is guaranteed to be more ardous than digging feces out of your own anus with fork. Embark on such adventures at your own peril

 

[BadBoy89]

Why are some women so hard to game whereas others aren't?

Because some women are under 30 whereas others aren't.

 

[itsperfectbaby]

Because some women are under 30 whereas others aren't.

****, I have met women in their 50s that seemed like they needed to be gamed and were still saying immature **** like, "I don't like nice guys"

 

[Bingo-Player]

most of it boils down to expectation

We live in a world where its extremely easy for women to have periods in their dating history's where they run hot and punch well well above their SMV

They start believing their own hype and its hard to come back down to earth

Men can have it too but its much easier for women to achieve periods like this especially if they stay single through their 20's

the easiest types of chicks to deal with are either very young sub 22 where expectations haven't quite been set yet or women who have just come out of a long term relationship

Any woman that has been on the market for years in my experiences is generally going to be a pain in the arse

 

[JST8828]

Any woman that has been on the market for years in my experiences is generally going to be a pain in the arse

Yeah, this is my experience a lot of the time. Not too long ago I met a woman who was 43 and never married. Attractive too. It hit me while I was dating her, thinking that she's basically been in the dating game for 25 years and never found a good enough man. What made me think that I would be the one?

I also think that younger women in their 20s are easier as they haven't been exposed to the attention they can get from men as much like women in their 30s who have also been through the ringer by that point and have all the baggage too, mind you.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Most ugly people have no problem getting together with other ugly people.

It's been that way since the dawn of time.

Only with social media do people believe they are higher value than they really are, and can therefore attract higher quality people than they actually can.

Stay in your lane, you ugly fistfvckers.

 

[Slowhandluke]

I also think that younger women in their 20s are easier as they haven't been exposed to the attention they can get from men as much like women in their 30s who have also been through the ringer by that point and have all the baggage too, mind you.

actually, I think its because younger women better understand that their beauty is ephemeral. Its not hard to see older women who were once beautiful asking "where all the good men are?" some of these older women are their sisters, aunts, even moms, etc..

Younger women already been exposed to older men - their teachers, their parents friends, the typical dude walking down the street that gives them a smile. Young women know they are attractive...

 

[Slowhandluke]

Most ugly people have no problem getting together with other ugly people.

It's been that way since the dawn of time.

Only with social media do people believe they are higher value than they really are, and can therefore attract higher quality people than they actually can.

Stay in your lane, you ugly fistfvckers.

well, an "ugly" girl that sleeps with chad... well, that will probably ruin her "compass"... is it her fault, or chad that flirts with her to get her in the sack when hes bored?

 

[OngBak]

They are not tbh, almost never found it hard to game them, I would not even need to play the game

 

[bmp2cpm]

How did it happen for your friends?

Easy: compatible attachment styles, chemistry, pre-vetting, and the woman’s clock telling her it is time to settle.

Plus your friends are resourceful enough to a decent jobs.

That is it. That is all you need. The clock is the big one out of this though.

 

[viking22]

Put simply it comes down to interest level and availability.

If she is interested and available she will make it easy for you.

And if you are meeting a girl through school, social circle, hobbies etc it is easier because you can grow on her whereas in a bar/club or online dating scenario you'll most likely fail the physical and she won't give you a chance and put up a lot of resistance.

Guys screw up by wasting a lot of time on "maybe" girls thinking that with enough persistence and game they will eventually prevail.
It rarely happens that way.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Mostly it comes down to their interest level in you.

 

[zekko]

Mostly it comes down to their interest level in you.

Yeah, I always say that what you want is for her to form an emotional attachment to you, if you're looking for a relationship. In my experience, that's when they latch on to you and "claim" you, as it were. Now how to get that interest level up, and how to form that emotional attachment, that's another story. I know physicality is involved.