What led you to take action?

[inquisitor]

i know he had been dealing with depression for many years, don't know the specifics though, i know he never married though.

Reminds me of my late uncle.

I have an aunt on my father's side who married this uncle. Everything seemed great on the outside: a house of their own (think third-world economy, this is a great spot to be in), and two daughters, one already in high school. Somehow, my uncle didn't properly carry his frame, i.e. being the man of the house, earning enough, etc. My aunt then started working abroad, and there she met another Filipino, and they had a very long affair. They are still married now, and with a child. My uncle didn't know until she was 8 months pregnant already. He lost himself. Got drunk all the time, went on to try and meet other women. Soon, he drove his motorcycle while drunk, got into an accident, and died. Meanwhile, my aunt and her new husband are hiding from their relatives and different owners of loan apps due to their huge accumulated debts. The oldest of the two original daughters, who was fond of my late uncle, is now focused on living on her own, always with a heavy grudge with my aunt. Their original house was sold to someone else.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

yeah, well i'm sure the state of affairs between men and women will always be the same. As in, guys won't get women for simply just existing, even if the guy is handsome and good looking and has plenty going for him, the reverse is true though.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I'm not asking what led you to this forum, pick-up, red pill mindset, whatever.

What I want to know is what pain did you have to experience, or what motivated you to overcome your fears and approach women you found attractive?

When was the pain of staying the same greater than the pain of rejection and embarrassment?

She was my high school crush. We saw the movie Forrest Gump together in a theater. Years later, she comes to visit and I run Gump game. "I love you JENN-na. Why are you running away?" She's still running.

 

[Vanderdonck]

She was my high school crush. We saw the movie Forrest Gump together in a theater. Years later, she comes to visit and I run Gump game. "I love you JENN-na. Why are you running away?" She's still running.

Dang, even Forrest got some Jenny.

 

[Manure Spherian]

I'm not asking what led you to this forum, pick-up, red pill mindset, whatever.

What I want to know is what pain did you have to experience, or what motivated you to overcome your fears and approach women you found attractive?

When was the pain of staying the same greater than the pain of rejection and embarrassment?

First two years of attending a socially-dead college. I was so lonely that it felt like I was slowly dying. I’m not kidding. I used to cry myself to sleep sometimes.

 

[Mike32ct]

1. Super overprotective parents. Couldn’t really leave the house except to go to school. So never dated in high school.

2. Zero fashion sense. Dressed terrible but didn’t know any better. Boring conservative hair cut. (My clothing and hairstyle were recommend by my mom lol.) Didn’t know anything about fitness. So was not attractive despite natural HTN looks (that were being wasted).

3. Commuted to college. Graduated and only had one guy friend. Zero social skills from being so sheltered. Didn’t date until 27 when I finally looksmaxed (hairstyle mostly and clothes and fitness) and started to scratch the surface on “game.”

Ultimately, my motivation was to make up for lost time.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

yeah i know its pointless to get angry and upset at things that are beyond our control, but over the years, it has filled me with lots of anger and rage on how nature and reality made it out to be that guys, men, are the only gender that have to take action, on why nature and reality made it out to be that taking action is a masculine trait. Its easy for me to resent women for their passive nature.

 

[Clockwerk50]

yeah i know its pointless to get angry and upset at things that are beyond our control, but over the years, it has filled me with lots of anger and rage on how nature and reality made it out to be that guys, men, are the only gender that have to take action, on why nature and reality made it out to be that taking action is a masculine trait. Its easy for me to resent women for their passive nature.

Sounds like you are the opposite of that stereotypical ‘silverback gorilla’ alpha-male type.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

Sounds like you are the opposite of that stereotypical ‘silverback gorilla’ alpha-male type.

well i did this research about gorillas and this was shocking, unexpected: https://www.gorillasafaridiscovery.com/gorilla-sex/

 

[Plinco]

yeah i know its pointless to get angry and upset at things that are beyond our control, but over the years, it has filled me with lots of anger and rage on how nature and reality made it out to be that guys, men, are the only gender that have to take action, on why nature and reality made it out to be that taking action is a masculine trait. Its easy for me to resent women for their passive nature.

Taking action = freedom

 

[coldapproach]

gorilla sex article.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

gorilla sex article.

Taking action = freedom

yeah, it makes me angry and upset because people make it out to be that men can literally get results with women anytime they want

 

[Plinco]

yeah, it makes me angry and upset because people make it out to be that men can literally get results with women anytime they want

I could be wrong, but my impression is that you are your own worst enemy.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

I could be wrong, but my impression is that you are your own worst enemy.

yeah you could say that, but i still don't understand why taking action means freedom

 

[Plinco]

yeah you could say that, but i still don't understand why taking action means freedom

Man needs freedom in order to take the correct action in accordance to his nature. Taking action exercises freedom.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

Man needs freedom in order to take the correct action in accordance to his nature. Taking action exercises freedom.

sometimes i hate testosterone so damn much, reminds me of a quote i read years ago, it angered me so much, it made me feel like wanting to really hurt that guy

 

[Plinco]

sometimes i hate testosterone so damn much, reminds me of a quote i read years ago, it angered me so much, it made me feel like wanting to really hurt that guy

Why specifically?

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

Why specifically?

because testosterone is associated for risk taking behavior, and this was the quote that pissed me off, i didn't speak to this guy, but another guy made a comment on how angry and pissed off he was, when he was upset on how the cards men are dealt with and what women can get away with but men can not, he said:

"Boo ****ing hoo. We also don't have to go through child birth and we're strong as ****.
Testosterone
gives us ambition + mental and physical strength that MANY (not all) women are lacking. Being a man has many benefits and with great power comes great responsibility. Stop crying about it and get your ****ing **** together"

Gosh, pissed me off so much, words are not appropriate for me to go into full detail, makes me wish i could hurt him badly, make him whine and squeal like a puppy or pig as i break his neck.

 

[Plinco]

because testosterone is associated for risk taking behavior, and this was the quote that pissed me off, i didn't speak to this guy, but another guy made a comment on how angry and pissed off he was, when he was upset on how the cards men are dealt with and what women can get away with but men can not, he said:

"Boo ****ing hoo. We also don't have to go through child birth and we're strong as ****.
Testosterone
gives us ambition + mental and physical strength that MANY (not all) women are lacking. Being a man has many benefits and with great power comes great responsibility. Stop crying about it and get your ****ing **** together"

Gosh, pissed me off so much, words are not appropriate for me to go into full detail, makes me wish i could hurt him badly, make him whine and squeal like a puppy or pig as i break his neck.

I'm willing to bet that your emotional background you have is a result of not being productive enough towards your goals. Whatever this guy said should not have bothered you. I don't know what your goals are, but if you start working hard enough towards them, you'll start feeling so good about yourself that petty comments like that won't anger you.

Don't think about it in terms of what should be or shouldn't be, but what is, and then make that your own.

I would love to be able to biologically reverse my age back to 20 and date 20 year olds without the age gap stigma. The reality is, I'm almost 42 and although I'm in great shape for my age, that age gap stigma is going to be with me whether I like it or not. I'm working on a style and mindset with the help of @BPH so that I can as effective as possible in my circumstances. I don't complain about my situation, I take the correct actions instead. Read my cold approach thread.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

I'm willing to bet that your emotional background you have is a result of not being productive enough towards your goals. Whatever this guy said should not have bothered you. I don't know what your goals are, but if you start working hard enough towards them, you'll start feeling so good about yourself that petty comments like that won't anger you.

Don't think about it in terms of what should be or shouldn't be, but what is, and then make that your own.

I would love to be able to biologically reverse my age back to 20 and date 20 year olds without the age gap stigma. The reality is, I'm almost 42 and although I'm in great shape for my age, that age gap stigma is going to be with me whether I like it or not. I'm working on a style and mindset with the help of @BPH so that I can as effective as possible in my circumstances. I don't complain about my situation, I take the correct actions instead. Read my cold approach thread.

"Whatever this guy said should not have bothered you.", seriously? how is what he said was not rude at all? are you saying what he said was justifiable? am i supposed to like what he said?