Looks

[Cheeky_James]

Of the men women are sexually attracted to, looks are at the bottom of the pile for what they go for. The excessive focus on one’s looks is effeminate.

are you kidding with the first sentence?

And what do put on the top of the pile then .. I’m guessing “Aura” .

 

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are you kidding?

I assumed it was a joke lol

 

[Cheeky_James]

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I assumed it was a joke lol

hmmm, I hope so.

Interesting story from Robert Greene in the video below that relate to this debate.

2 sentences he says at 10 seconds in.

 

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hmmm, I hope so.

Interesting story from Robert Greene in the video below that relate to this debate.

2 sentences he says at 10 seconds in.

lol, funny how he says 'great seducer' as if it was a 'skill' haha. The tall, young, handsome (probably jacked and rich) Brazilan man!
I'd love to take Robert Greene out with me tonight to hit on 19 year olds. See if all of his game and female nature knowledge means he'll hook up with some or whether, as would undoubtably be the case, he'd have zero chance lol. Same goes for other 'writers'. Dan Bacon for example.

I used to want my ex wingman who was a chad slayer to start some sort of 'PUA' channel on youtube or something with infields etc. As I always realised how dumb and desperate people are who would have easily been convinced that his success was nothing to do with his looks. We could have cornered the market as his success was WAY better than anything any PUA coach has ever shown.

 

[Manure Spherian]

are you kidding with the first sentence?

And what do put on the top of the pile then .. I’m guessing “Aura” .

1. Criminality, rule breaking, social deviance, thrills.
2. Status.
3. Looks.

Women bypass looks for 1 and 2. Plenty of “beta” men are good looking.

 

[Manure Spherian]

I assumed it was a joke lol

Nope. See my post above.

 

[Cheeky_James]

lol, funny how he says 'great seducer' as if it was a 'skill' haha. The tall, young, handsome (probably jacked and rich) Brazilan man!
I'd love to take Robert Greene out with me tonight to hit on 19 year olds. See if all of his game and female nature knowledge means he'll hook up with some or whether, as would undoubtably be the case, he'd have zero chance lol. Same goes for other 'writers'. Dan Bacon for example.

I used to want my ex wingman who was a chad slayer to start some sort of 'PUA' channel on youtube or something with infields etc. As I always realised how dumb and desperate people are who would have easily been convinced that his success was nothing to do with his looks. We could have cornered the market as his success was WAY better than anything any PUA coach has ever shown.

100%.

RG - “he was this TALL Brazilian man, INCREDIBLY HANDSOME… “

“but I later realised his SECRET was ….”

Robert, please dont tell me he had a massive shlong too.

yes, would love to see an infield of your friend , and the girls reactions off the bat.
The closest thing on video is probably Paul Janka’s old infield stuff. Or Scotty Flamingo GLL /aka Brian Harris the badboy type guy.

 

[Cheeky_James]

1. Criminality, rule breaking, social deviance, thrills.
2. Status.
3. Looks.

Women bypass looks for 1 and 2. Plenty of “beta” men are good looking.

Nahhh it’s Looks #1 ( unfortunately ) IRL.
High Looks turn heads, for both sexes.
‘incredibly handsome’ is a smaller % of men vs ‘hot’ women though , so the rest of us have to work the angles of your #1 and #2. Not discounting those.
Plenty of beta men are good looking but not ‘tall and incredibly handsome.’ There’s a difference.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Nahhh it’s Looks #1 ( unfortunately ) IRL.
High Looks turn heads, for both sexes.
‘incredibly handsome’ is a smaller % of men vs ‘hot’ women though , so the rest of us have to work the angles of your #1 and #2. Not discounting those.
Plenty of beta men are good looking but not ‘tall and incredibly handsome.’ There’s a difference.

I have observed differently. Plus there are so few “incredibly handsome” men that what you wrote hardly applies and looks don’t keep women.

I know of a married couple whose woman said about the guy before marriage, “I’d never go out with that fat Jew,” but then got with him after finding out about his money from his then criminal, but now legal enterprise.

Is this guy gorgeous? Where are the hunter eyes, great head of hair, and chiseled jaw?

 

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1. Criminality, rule breaking, social deviance, thrills.
2. Status.
3. Looks.

Women bypass looks for 1 and 2. Plenty of “beta” men are good looking.

100%. One of the most iconic American photos ever is Frank Sinatra at central booking. Yet that period of time was about high character, post war American excellence, family values, etc.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Plenty of “beta” men are good looking.

Yeah, the term "blandly handsome" wasn't devised just for sh-ts and giggles... Luke Wilson, Josh Lucas, and Chris Klein were/are all examples of conventionally attractive guys, who never came close to being catnip for the ladies. Looks alone, on a man anyway, aren't especially valuable, WITHOUT personal magnetism

 

[Manure Spherian]

This is a violent drug dealer from my old borough.

USDOJ: US Attorney's Office - Eastern District of New York

He was never womanless. And one can search in Google images to see his ordinary look.

Yeah, the term "blandly handsome" wasn't devised just for sh-ts and giggles... Luke Wilson, Josh Lucas, and Chris Klein were/are all examples of conventionally attractive guys, who never came close to being catnip for the ladies. Looks alone, on a man anyway, aren't especially valuable, WITHOUT personal magnetism

 

[Manure Spherian]

This is a violent drug dealer from my old borough.

USDOJ: US Attorney's Office - Eastern District of New York

He was never womanless. And one can search in Google images to see his ordinary look.

Female lawyer with criminal client and sex partner. Look at how he towers over her, his chiseled jaw, and leanness.

Lookism, lol.

 

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Female lawyer with criminal client and sex partner. Look at how he towers over her, his chiseled jaw, and leanness.

Lookism, lol.

These guys lavish these women with money though. Not always directly, but jewelry, experiences, and fear.

 

[Manure Spherian]

These guys lavish these women with money though. Not always directly, but jewelry, experiences, and fear.

In some cases yes.

Of the examples I know personally, no. My own brother would sometimes yo-yo in weight to near obesity but was never womanless, partly because of status and previous lawbreaking. He is good looking, but not a model.

 

[Manure Spherian]

experiences

Yes,”tizzy tours”

 

[Cheeky_James]

I have observed differently. Plus there are so few “incredibly handsome” men that what you wrote hardly applies and looks don’t keep women.

I know of a married couple whose woman said about the guy before marriage, “I’d never go out with that fat Jew,” but then got with him after finding out about his money from his then criminal, but now legal enterprise.

Is this guy gorgeous? Where are the hunter eyes, great head of hair, and chiseled jaw?

well, yeah sure the bad-boy is a thing and appeals across many types of women.
That guy in the pic looks Tall , (=Looks) big build (protector) and pretty good looking in the face too tbh imo.

There is also this famous guy, who went viral due to the huge amount women going ga-ga over his looks. Who then went on to become a male model.

I think in this case his Looks trumped his rap sheet tbh

Jeremy Meeks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I dunno tbh. All I know is all the players I’ve known IRL also happen to either be very ‘cute faced/youthful looking’ or very handsome faced.

and the greatest seducer the author of the Art Of seduction ever met IRL also happened to be tall Latin and incredibly handsome. What can I say. Seems to be a correlation in there somewhere.

Maybe read the book ‘A Billion Wicked Thoughts ‘ that has a lot of data on female desire. Which correlates to the above also, Alpha+ Handsome seems to be the top 2 in that data as far as I remember . And both going together pretty much.

 

[Manure Spherian]

well, yeah sure the bad-boy is a thing and appeals across many types of women.
That guy in the pic looks Tall , (=Looks) big build (protector) and pretty good looking in the face too tbh imo.

There is also this famous guy, who went viral due to the huge amount women going ga-ga over his looks. Who then went on to become a male model.

I think in this case his Looks trumped his rap sheet tbh

Jeremy Meeks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I dunno tbh. All I know is all the players I’ve known IRL also happen to either be very ‘cute faced/youthful looking’ or very handsome faced.

and the greatest seducer the author of the Art Of seduction ever met IRL also happened to be tall Latin and incredibly handsome. What can I say. Seems to be a correlation in there somewhere.

Maybe read the book ‘A Billion Wicked Thoughts ‘ that has a lot of data. Which correlates to the above also, Alpha+ Handsome seems to be the top 2 in that data. And both together pretty much.

Prison governor with inmate she had affair with.

Full head of hair, chiseled jaw, hunter eyes.

My point was criminality and status override looks and that’s evidenced by all these women being able to select from other men who are handsome and high status but didn’t.

I’m not denying height and looks help. I just mean women bypass men with those for these types of men.

 

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Prison governor with inmate she had affair with.

These guys lavish these women with money though. Not always directly, but jewelry, experiences, and fear.

she had lots of financial issues, debt and CCJ's. He bought her a 12k mercedes and designer goods. Seems more transactional than anything

"Las Vegas Raiders owner Mark Davis, 69, claimed that his 26-year-old girlfriend, dancer Hayden Hopkins, didn't know he was a billionaire"

'If you believe that!'

And the other examples don't really show anything. That prison guard and the black dude. She's a swinger with a mega high sex drive who's husband films her having orgies with guys and girls (i've seen it. She's not as hot as her edited pics tbh). Some evidence suggests she done it (and had it filmed in the prison cell which is how it got released) as a present for her husband. And even if there was genuine attraction, I don't think anybody is saying you only get laid if you look like Leo Dicaprio in the departed! Girls have different tastes. I banged a legit stunner from work a while back (shared her pic on here) who simply thought I was handsome and that's what started it. But I imagine all of her friends didn't think I was 'good looking' lol. Maybe she liked him because he's black, covered in tats and at least 6ft 2 (looks). So it would well still be about 'physical attraction' (assuming she wasn't just going for the first prisoner who agreed too it in order to show her hubby the footage)

And again with that other guy - he's not a gargoyle, and she's not that hot!

 

[justaroundthecorner]

Some women have preference for criminals but when you will look past their looks (btw. I do not consider any of women on photos with criminals above particularly attractive, just a bunch of 5 and 6/10s) you will understand that they are fckdup

But ALL women like really handsome guys. Second decade of 21st century is all about looks, peacocking, still tattoos - obviously add money and perspective for money to the drink. Everything else is of tertiary value.