Thinking about quitting my job

[taiyuu_otoko]

Don't quit your job until you've found a new one.

 

[tksniper]

My experience as a former 20 something dating coach who used to take out doctors and lawyers in their 40’s and 50’s to teach them game, I would advise against it. If you are familiar with RSD (real social dynamics), you can actually catch me on one of their videos.

The company’s CEO, Tyler, was a wingman with me on some chick in the Marina in San Francisco. I gave him value in front of the girl and convinced the girl to go home with him. The next day, he framed it as he stole a girl away from me. I’m actually in one of their videos if you have access to it.

During that time I was super passionate about the game and teaching others the game. And I allowed that passion blind me. Alexander the Great was also super passionate about world conquest and he made many millions of people suffer because of his passion.

The thing about passion is that it needs to be combined with rationalism. I didn’t discover until I was in my 30’s that all the principles that work with women also work in sales and marketing. My very first sales job, I made over 6 figures, and this was 100% commission with no salary. I was selling solar door to door. Because I was so good at picking up women, I was unreactive to the countless rejections in door to door sales.

Every sales/marketing job since then, I’ve always been number 1. I had to recently leave a company because I wanted to start my own firm.

My guess is you are a natural salesman/marketer. Even if you quit your job, I would be a contractor in some field that makes alot of money. Work for full commission. There are people who do remote high ticket sales that make $500k+. The best self employed solar sales people in the U.S make over a million a year.

But my fear is you might lose all your savings when trying to find your niche. Hold on to it until you at least find a niche that allows you to be self employed and make commission without having to be an employee.

 

[BPH]

My guess is you are a natural salesman/marketer.

My track record would beg to differ.

Here's what I've tried selling:

• Glow-in-the-dark charging cables for iPhone via Shopify
• Copywriting services via email marketing
• Literal free money to businesses as part of the Employee Retention Credit following COVID
• Lead acquisition for mortgage loan officers
• Subscription to a lead acquisition TOOL for mortgage loan officers (lower price point, done-with-you rather than done-for-you)
• Lawn services in my local area

The most successful of these was the Employee Retention Credit business as a referral partner, and that's only because I got paid $5,000 almost 2 years later, after the IRS put a halt to new claims. Everything else on that list I either took a loss on or made minimal profit (the lawn care business made $297 in revenue, not profit).

I believe this is a result of my not knowing enough about what I'm selling, not having the conviction to know what I'm selling works, or a combination of the two. That's why I think THIS would be different, because I very much believe in what I'm selling, know it works, and am constantly practicing what I preach.

Sorry to hear about your experience with RSD Tyler, though. He also strikes me as a cornball, and I don't believe somebody who looks or talks like him is banging hot women on the regular.

 

[Clockwerk50]

The legal cannabis industry has been a race to the bottom from the very beginning. It's the same pattern in every state. At first, a few very politically connected people get a license to print money. Then it's all downhill for everyone else.

Hemp-derived cannabinoids have been crushing the market since the last farm bill accidentally legalized them. First it was delta 8, and now it is thca "hemp," which is actually just weed. It's everywhere, and yet at the same time very sketchy in a legal sense. Stores get raided all the time.

You don't strike me as someone who cares that much about cannabis, which is fine, and probably a compliment. But some people do, and there's no reason to engage in competition with them in an already very difficult industry.

The dating coach thing really limits you to a narrow clientele. If you were a "life coach," then anyone could buy your services. That includes straight single guys who have just given up on the idea of dating, often because they need a lot more basic help first. You'd be like a physical trainer at the gym, just remotely and more general.

He could try to replicate these bootcamps. It is $18,000 per head lol

 

[tksniper]

My track record would beg to differ.

Here's what I've tried selling:

• Glow-in-the-dark charging cables for iPhone via Shopify
• Copywriting services via email marketing
• Literal free money to businesses as part of the Employee Retention Credit following COVID
• Lead acquisition for mortgage loan officers
• Subscription to a lead acquisition TOOL for mortgage loan officers (lower price point, done-with-you rather than done-for-you)
• Lawn services in my local area

The most successful of these was the Employee Retention Credit business as a referral partner, and that's only because I got paid $5,000 almost 2 years later, after the IRS put a halt to new claims. Everything else on that list I either took a loss on or made minimal profit (the lawn care business made $297 in revenue, not profit).

I believe this is a result of my not knowing enough about what I'm selling, not having the conviction to know what I'm selling works, or a combination of the two. That's why I think THIS would be different, because I very much believe in what I'm selling, know it works, and am constantly practicing what I preach.

Sorry to hear about your experience with RSD Tyler, though. He also strikes me as a cornball, and I don't believe somebody who looks or talks like him is banging hot women on the regular.

You hit the nail on the head. I was convinced solar would benefit people. And my natural charm took over. You can do the whole dating coach thing but at the same time hedge your bets and find something that the market is demanding.

One thing you have to think about is the market. The biggest lesson I’ve learned is you should not be marketing driven, but MARKET driven.

Is the market asking for your services? And sosuave is not the market.

And even if you come to the conclusion that the market is asking for it(it probably is), do you have a unique product that’s different from the past 20 years?

What if your product is more so using your connections with women to throw events rather than taking men out to the field? Taking guys out to the field has been proven to not work.

But if a guy with connections that can throw events and bring the field to the students - that might be a revelation and a genuine solution to people’s problems.

 

[BeExcellent]

The issue I have with those suggestions is that they ultimately lead to continuing the unending grind of being a 9-5 employee, albeit with (hopefully) higher wages. They don't lead to financial independence, as I'm not in charge of my income - somebody else is, and that somebody has the ability to fire me for any/no reason.

That's the problem I see with dumping more time, something I will never get back, into something where I'd already reached my earning potential.

I am familiar with Matthew Hussey, and becoming more of an influencer via content creation is what I would be doing with that extra time, as that's how I imagine I'd get clients outside of this forum most easily.

I get it. Shift your focus my friend. Every $1500 you get? Bank as much as you can for your "launch me" fund. Set out a number (35K isn't too far away) where you reduce your hours to 20.....keep banking. Maybe at 40 or 42K you pull the proverbial parachute.

Keep adding clients. Make content & post it. But do it in a polished, positive way. Keep working for now & buy yourself a good camera and get an editing program. Look at how Hussey stages his spots. Light, bright, airy, uncluttered. Simple.

Listen. My goal years ago was to replace my 6 figure income through rental properties. I have done that, but it took 25 years and I made some expensive mistakes along the way. As I type this I'm between consulting gigs. But I have rents, savings and saleable assets. And on the verge of two new gigs in my field plus a small part time thing I already do.

There are times when you need to double down in life; where the path gets harder. Think it was easy to build a real estate business while full time employed as a STEM professional? While I was travelling for work, being pregnant, having babies, and young kids? While I was also the sole breadwinner responsible for a family of 5 with ZERO help from parents or family....

Nope. Massive pressure, massive grind. For YEARS. Clients at times I couldn't stand but they paid the bills. People and banks trying to take advantage of me constantly. But you see I am tough. I kept my eye on my goals, accomplished them & set newer bigger goals....I am stubborn & have no quit.

You have to be resilient to succeed at anything and you have to set your ego aside at times and utilize the tools before you. Set your goals and use the idiot boss to motivate you. Smile when he pays you for he is funding the bigger picture.

You will have haters. Good. Engage them in a neutral objective way. Some will become clients. Take a lesson out of the toddler playbook.....Any attention is good attention. Any press is exposure. You see?

Just some thoughts of encouragement from the old lady.

 

[BPH]

I appreciate the advice I've been given, but somebody in that entrepreneur forum mentioned how I need to stop asking others for permission and take more risks - and that was what I needed to come to a decision.

So...

I just got off the phone with my boss, and we had a short conversation. Surprisingly enough, he's open to my working from home for 20 hours per week. He understood where I was coming from about the medical marijuana business basically being capped as far as my earning potential, and the fact that my having to come into the office physically limits me from being able to move out of my parents' place and do other things.

He's asked me to start cleaning up the office space in preparation to move out once the lease expires, and will allow me to take some pieces of equipment (desktop, printer) to set up a desk for work at home. From there, he doesn't really care when or where I work from, so long as I'm getting those hours in.

This seems like a pretty good outcome where I'm getting the best of both worlds without doing anything too extreme. Maybe it's still a bit risk-averse, however.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I appreciate the advice I've been given, but somebody in that entrepreneur forum mentioned how I need to stop asking others for permission and take more risks - and that was what I needed to come to a decision.

So...

I just got off the phone with my boss, and we had a short conversation. Surprisingly enough, he's open to my working from home for 20 hours per week. He understood where I was coming from about the medical marijuana business basically being capped as far as my earning potential, and the fact that my having to come into the office physically limits me from being able to move out of my parents' place and do other things.

He's asked me to start cleaning up the office space in preparation to move out once the lease expires, and will allow me to take some pieces of equipment (desktop, printer) to set up a desk for work at home. From there, he doesn't really care when or where I work from, so long as I'm getting those hours in.

This seems like a pretty good outcome where I'm getting the best of both worlds without doing anything too extreme. Maybe it's still a bit risk-averse, however.

So you work from home now? That’s great!

That alone eliminates a good chunk of the coworker BS

 

[BeExcellent]

So you work from home now? That’s great!

That alone eliminates a good chunk of the coworker BS

Awesome. This is a good outcome. Kudos in having the courage to have that conversation. Keep grinding!!

 

[eli77]

My two cents go remote if you have to.