Men Are Tired of Women Not Paying for Dates

[Bokanovsky]

Ever hear of Marie Curie? Ada Lovelace? Grace Hopper?

Don't be so ignorant.

Exception that proves the rule. Thanks for playing.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

This makes sense. Few men can have interactions with women and escalate them without a date.

Correct...and this mentality and these kinds of actions, are what makes a conventional man.

I like being unconventional...going against and challenging conventional wisdom and programming.

This is what Mode One and Direct Game does.

If you (generally speaking) think that you must take women on dates (pay dates) to escalate, then you are so far in the forest, you can't see the trees.

It would be great to have sufficient game to set up this way of doing things.

Another option is to try to set up inexpensive dates without coming off as cheap. This can be logistically challenging at times but is possible.

I do it all the time .

 

[mbc0029]

Equality and Feminism is a Sh*t Test on a large scale. He believes it. He's operating in her and womankind's Frame before they started dating.

You'd have to cut the snake off the head before you fix anything else.

 

[BaronOfHair]

You can have your free meals when you die by the millions fighting in WWI and WWII, develop writing, science and math, and make literally every significant invention in the history of mankind. Nursing a baby is nothing compared to building a spaceship or storming a machine gun nest armed with a bolt action rifle and a bayonet.

Reminds one of

Most cooter hunting men living TODAY fought in WWI or/and WWII? We, as a CLASS, developed writing, science, and math/made every significant invention of mankind? I really did black out this evening after guzzling down a few c-c-tails + A Guiness following an aunt of mine's funeral, nonetheless I'm examining the clothes I was wearing at the time, and there's not a single trace of us having charged through the jungles of Saipan, bayoneting and gunning down Japs


And I haven't received a single DM here from anyone at SS-nor an Email from any other dude-seeking back up for creating cuneiform or codifying algebra. If ANYONE here(male or female alike)DOES possess hard evidence of having done such things fairly recently, don't hesitate to share


Like the tradition of paying for the date, all that stuff is the baggage of folks who've been dead for decades(if not centuries), the likes of which has zero bearing on the difficulties we're facing here in modernity. If one has no desire to pay for dinner and margaritas, he needn't do so. There are many additional types of excursions to bring a potential conquest to

 

[Vanderdonck]

I've always found the term "old fashioned" highly irritating. It's one of those stupid new-age euphemisms like "the right to choose" that turns the plain meaning of the words upside down. What is so "old fashioned" about wanting to be wined and dined for free? In the old days, men didn't even take women out for dinner. Restaurants are a 20th century invention. Sure, there were taverns but the only women you'd find in them were wh0res. Real old-fashioned women stay at home and cook dinners for their husbands. That's been human custom for thousands of years.

Calling a selfish/entitled woman "old fashioned" is like calling a rapist a "consent-challenged lover". It's retarded.

I'm talking about women from more traditional cultures, like a lot of Eastern European countries. Men pay or paid for everything because women don't work or even if they do. It's just expected whether you like it or not.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Only the most female empowered, "Boss Girl" corporate career women will do this. They don't even do it that much.

Raise value as a male and women get thirsty and aggressive. It happens. Most guys on SS can't accept a version of themselves who is in demand, which is why they are here complaining about sexual politics and debating "theory." (Not you.)

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Exception that proves the rule. Thanks for playing.

Your ignorance is exceeded only by your ignorance.

 

[BeExcellent]

All you have to do @Bokanovsky to see the fallout of the huge gender gap in China is use Google. There is a serious shortage of women there now since the Millennial generation and much of Gen Z in China is mostly male. Now there are no women to mate with and women are being kidnapped from other countries for forced marriage to Chinese men. Dowries are hugely expensive in China now. Why? Access to pvssy is limited.
Google is your friend. Go get yourself educated.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Reminds one of

Most cooter hunting men living TODAY fought in WWI or/and WWII? We, as a CLASS, developed writing, science, and math/made every significant invention of mankind? I really did black out this evening after guzzling down a few c-c-tails + A Guiness following an aunt of mine's funeral, nonetheless I'm examining the clothes I was wearing at the time, and there's not a single trace of us having charged through the jungles of Saipan, bayoneting and gunning down Japs


And I haven't received a single DM here from anyone at SS-nor an Email from any other dude-seeking back up for creating cuneiform or codifying algebra. If ANYONE here(male or female alike)DOES possess hard evidence of having done such things fairly recently, don't hesitate to share


Like the tradition of paying for the date, all that stuff is the baggage of folks who've been dead for decades(if not centuries), the likes of which has zero bearing on the difficulties we're facing here in modernity. If one has no desire to pay for dinner and margaritas, he needn't do so. There are many additional types of excursions to bring a potential conquest to

You missed the obvious sarcasm in my post. I was responding to BE, who ridiculously raised the pains of childbirth as the reason why men should pay on dates. If we accept the bonkers logic inherent in that argument (i.e. that single, childless women should be financially compensated for the fact that other women had to give birth), why shouldn't a man take credit for the sacrifices of other men?

 

[Bokanovsky]

Your ignorance is exceeded only by your ignorance.

Okay, Shakespeare

 

[BaronOfHair]

You missed the obvious sarcasm in my post

Sounds like we might be interchangeable in that department, hoss. In any event, paying for the date is(at this point in human history)the baggage of folks who've been dead for decades, if not a century now

There are many activities aside from four-star bistros fellas living in The Post-Industrial West can take potential conquests to, NONE of which require us to drop a sh-t-load of money on

 

[zekko]

I've seen as many men who are bad with money as I have women....but I do not hang out discussing money with such people (husband is an exception obviously) because if these people understood money? They'd have some.

I certainly don't have any data saying which gender is worse with money. I am aware of more women having run up massive credit card debt than men, but that is just hear say. Mostly I've heard this second hand, so it may simply be that women are more willing to communicate their debt problems than men are, women being more communicate, after all. I do know some guys who can't be trusted with money, but their women keep them in line lol. And of course I know many women who are very responsible with money too, so there's that.

 

[Vanderdonck]

In the article linked in the OP the guy says, "I'm tired of it. Men are tired of it."

He was right the first time. Dude got taken for a ride and thinks he speaks for all men. It's just solipsism.

Guys you can complain/try to change the world or you can level up. Each time you whine to a chick about equality you drive her into another guy's bed. And if you're not getting asked out from time to time you've got room for improvement.

 

[SW15]

I was responding to BE, who ridiculously raised the pains of childbirth as the reason why men should pay on dates. If we accept the bonkers logic inherent in that argument (i.e. that single, childless women should be financially compensated for the fact that other women had to give birth), why shouldn't a man take credit for the sacrifices of other men?

There's very little connection between childbirth and why men should pay for first dates.

Many childless women benefit from not paying for dates in the early stage dating process. Single moms often don't have to pay for dates in early stage dating too.

The more common argument women use for why they shouldn't pay any amount for dates is that they pay more for beauty and cosmetic products/treatments in order to look good for these dates.

 

[Gamisch]

In the article linked in the OP the guy says, "I'm tired of it. Men are tired of it."

He was right the first time. Dude got taken for a ride and thinks he speaks for all men. It's just solipsism.

Guys you can complain/try to change the world or you can level up. Each time you whine to a chick about equality you drive her into another guy's bed. And if you're not getting asked out from time to time you've got room for improvement.

End thread. Next

Dating isn't for everyone. If you have to sweat for a 50 bucks check...

To put it really bluntly; if you are alone and you wanna sleep with a " womam of the night" it will cost you at least 100/ 150 bucks. For some lackluster sex .

Now you're vibing with a woman who might teach you a thing or two and yes you pay but you can feck till your d1ck is limp.

Stop whining start shining

 

[Bokanovsky]

The more common argument women use for why they shouldn't pay any amount for dates is that they pay more for beauty and cosmetic products/treatments in order to look good for these dates.

That is another ridiculous argument I've heard women make. By that logic, if I drop $100K on a nice car to impress chicks, they should be paying for dates for years to come to compensate me for that investment.

I have to say, the ferocity with which women try to cling on to their traditional female entitlements in this post-modern, supposedly egalitarian society reminds me of a welfare recipient fighting to keep his benefits. How dare you take away my food stamps!

 

[Doctor Europeo]

Stop whining start shining

This. I like this

 

[Bokanovsky]

End thread. Next

Dating isn't for everyone. If you have to sweat for a 50 bucks check...

To put it really bluntly; if you are alone and you wanna sleep with a " womam of the night" it will cost you at least 100/ 150 bucks. For some lackluster sex .

Now you're vibing with a woman who might teach you a thing or two and yes you pay but you can feck till your d1ck is limp.

Stop whining start shining

Who cares about $50? That's nothing.

The whole wine and dine thing is not really about money. It's about the balance of power. You invite her. You pay for her time. She does you a favour by agreeing to go on a date with you. She's on a pedestal. You are vying for her attention. Women understand this dynamic very well but most men don't (because the average man does most of his thinking with his small head).

 

[SW15]

That is another ridiculous argument I've heard women make. By that logic, if I drop $100K on a nice car to impress chicks, they should be paying for dates for years to come to compensate me for that investment.

Plenty of men are dropping money on luxury brand cars to impress women. I'd say the most common car brands men buy to try to impress women are BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Porsche. There are men who even go to Ferrari or Lamborghini levels to try to impress women.

A few months after making the video above, Doug DeMuro sent out some female friends/acquaintances with that same Ferrari to see if they could meet men.

I have to say, the ferocity with which women try to cling on to their traditional female entitlements in this post-modern, supposedly egalitarian society reminds me of a welfare recipient fighting to keep his benefits. How dare you take away my food stamps!

Women like getting free stuff on early stage dates. I think women would rather have a meaningful connection on the dates than the free stuff.

Who cares about $50? That's nothing.

The whole wine and dine thing is not really about money. It's about the balance of power. You invite her. You pay for her time. She does you a favour by agreeing to go on a date with you. She's on a pedestal. You are vying for her attention. Women understand this dynamic very well but most men don't (because the average man does most of his thinking with his small head).

The problem is not one $50 outing. The problem arises when men have multiple failed dates that cost around $35 - $60. That stuff can add up. There are men that lose thousands of dollars in failed early stage dates.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Plenty of men are dropping money on luxury brand cars to impress women. I'd say the most common car brands men buy to try to impress women are BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Porsche. There are men who even go to Ferrari or Lamborghini levels to try to impress women.

A few months after making the video above, Doug DeMuro sent out some female friends/acquaintances with that same Ferrari to see if they could meet men.

Women like getting free stuff on early stage dates. I think women would rather have a meaningful connection on the dates than the free stuff.



The problem is not one $50 outing. The problem arises when men have multiple failed dates that cost around $35 - $60. That stuff can add up. There are men that lose thousands of dollars in failed early stage dates.

It's why the first date should be as inexpensive as possible because you have no idea if you even will want to spend any time with this woman.

Plus if you have a pipeline to build, you aren't just going to go on 3 or 4 dates and then suddenly have a rotation going...it's going to take 10-15-20 dates and then constantly going on more dates with new women to keep the pipeline filled once the original ones start falling off or replacing them with better options.

1st dates are like Russian Roulette and I'm not spending a lot of money to find out if we are going to want to spend more time together or not. It's just dumb.

The only people who think this is a good idea are the people who don't actually go on a lot of dates.