Do you think the Bible Belt is collapsing because women can't find cute guys, and men can't find anything decent, at church?

[MatureDJ]

I was watching this, and it got me interested:

I think this is part of the meta-decline in folks doing any type of social activity - also for this reason.

 

[SW15]

I think you are asking about the relationship between the mating environment and church attendance. This is a somewhat complex question to answer, but I'll try to answer it as simply as possible.

In past generations, churches were influential in creating longer term relationships. Among those that still practice religion, this is a thing. Some religious colleges still have a "Ring by Spring" tradition.

Churches having some influence over the mating process helped many beta males find mates that probably wouldn't have done so without the influence of a Christian church and its mating rules. One can still see effects of this in the older generations. There are still Boomer and some pre-Boomer betas out there that had LTRs/marriages that lasted over time. Church may have helped form these couples though I think a shared religious adherence may have kept some mediocre marriages together.

Many younger people in the last 2 adult generations (Gen Y/Millennials and Gen Z) have not liked that many Christian faiths have a no sex before marriage rule. This has probably reduced participation in those faiths. Detaching sex and marriage has had consequences for both men and women. For women, it hasn't changed access to sex but it has made finding committed sex over a longer period more of an issue. Additionally, increased access to sex with more partners has also made women not as emotionally satisfied in a traditional monogamous marriage. For men, a small portion of men have enjoyed more sexual partners but the middle tier has often struggled to get more sex in a cultural model where there's a detachment between sex and marriage. A greater percentage of males are ignored or become total beta bucks guys in near sexless marriages.

 

[BaronOfHair]

All points south of The Canadian border are "The Bible Belt". Those parts of The US which are "dying"(Sections of The Deep South and The Midwest)have been on the decline for decades, and more of the locals are realizing that there's no salvaging their hometowns, immigrating to areas that are vibrant

 

[Bokanovsky]

Lets ask @Bible_Belt

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Grew up in the Bible Belt, the place is riddled with poverty and is a joke. People think life ends at 22 and never bother to develop themselves after that.

 

[MatureDJ]

All points south of The Canadian border are "The Bible Belt". Those parts of The US which are "dying"(Sections of The Deep South and The Midwest)have been on the decline for decades, and more of the locals are realizing that there's no salvaging their hometowns, immigrating to areas that are vibrant

And part of moving away from one's home town is moving away from social circles, be they established or latent, and this is really the coup de grâce for so many normies (@SW15 can speak to this). There's no Mary Jane Rottencrotch that you remember from high school to serendipitously meet (of course, I didn't even have that possibility , but I digress) - to all the women in your new town, you're just another normie schlub.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Lets ask @Bible_Belt

It's OVER for BeltCels.

 

[Plinco]

Grew up in the Bible Belt, the place is riddled with poverty and is a joke. People think life ends at 22 and never bother to develop themselves after that.

That's the case of anywhere in rural America, lots of alcohol and drugs.

 

[SW15]

And part of moving away from one's home town is moving away from social circles, be they established or latent, and this is really the coup de grâce for so many normies (@SW15 can speak to this). There's no Mary Jane Rottencrotch that you remember from high school to serendipitously meet (of course, I didn't even that possibility , but I digress) - to all the women in your new town, you're just another normie schlub.

Relocations weaken social circles. This is true of both childhood relocations and adulthood relocations. With childhood relocations, the parent/parents are to blame there. Men who've had numerous relocations tend to have the weakest social circles and are the most reliant upon swipe apps and approaching strangers. This is going to be a significant challenge for mid-tier looks range men.

Churches are a part of social circles. It's far from the only social circle option.

There are plenty of examples of agreeable, mid-range looking men who are in relationships and getting some sex because of having a decent social circle from living in the same geographic area for the majority of their lives. When a man fits this description, the only time he left his hometown was to attend a regional college within 2-4 hours driving of his hometown.

If that man wasn't as geographically rooted and had some random relocations, then he would have had a much higher probability of having challenges in his dating life. These challenges will often look like extended dry spells without sex. There's often nothing wrong with these men other than being too average on looks, money, and charisma.

I have written extensively about one city in the Bible Belt and that city is Dallas, TX. Dallas is a big city that attracts a lot of transplants from other places and it has a major impact on this city's mating scene. Dallas has more of a cosmopolitan feeling that a Bible Belt feeling. There are practitioners of Christian faiths in Dallas but the influence of Christian faiths is not dominant on the mating scene of Dallas.

Observations on Dallas' Scene

Based on @Jesse Pinkman's write ups of New York City, Miami, and large state universities, I thought it would be worthwhile to write up Dallas, the city I call home. The Dallas-Fort Worth metropolitan area (DFW) is the 4th most populated metropolitan area in the United States. Dallas and Fort...

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[BaronOfHair]

And part of moving away from one's home town is moving away from social circles, be they established or latent...

And that's the best thing that could possibly happen to many men/many people more generally. Spend too much time in the ghetto or the trailer park, and one end up becoming garbage also, faster than Red Bull and meth torpedoed Linday Lohan's fu-kability

 

[CornbreadFed]

American Evangelicalism is the plague that haunts the US. Outside that, most churches are pretty tame and not in your business about stuff like that.

 

[Hal9000]

Id guess the BB is collapsing because people are giving up on religion, not because churches are no longer great meet up locations.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Id guess the BB is collapsing because people are giving up on religion, not because churches are no longer great meet up locations.

Disagree, hard times bring people back to religion.

Why Are More Men Going Back to Church in 2025? - RELEVANT

 

[sevbucmash]

Bible Belt Starter Pack
• Church on Sunday, Chick-fil-A on Monday, and a passive-aggressive prayer for your soul by Tuesday.
• Evolution? That’s just a theory—like gravity, or the idea that iced tea should ever be unsweetened.
• “Bless your heart” is both a greeting and a verbal roundhouse kick.
• Youth pastors dress like they just raided a thrift store sponsored by Vans and Bible verses.
• Dating pool? More like a baptismal font—small, shallow, and everyone’s already been dunked.
• The local megachurch has more LED screens than the Apple Store, but still thinks TikTok is a gateway to sin.
• You haven’t truly lived until you’ve seen a sermon interrupted by a tornado warning and nobody flinches because “Jesus will sort it out.

 

[sevbucmash]

It’s a place where faith runs deep, but so do the contradictions. Like preaching modesty while driving a lifted truck with “God’s Country” blaring at 120 decibels. Or condemning Hollywood while secretly binge-watching “Yellowstone.”

 

[sevbucmash]

 

[BaronOfHair]

Why Are More Men Going Back to Church in 2025? - RELEVANT

They never left https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/this-place-has-gone-to-shyt.284546/page-4#post-3167773 , but rather switched denominations

 

[CornbreadFed]

They never left https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/this-place-has-gone-to-shyt.284546/page-4#post-3167773 , but rather switched denominations

I grew up Church of Christ/Baptist- Divorced parents and wasn’t a fan. I started going to an episcopal church and I find that church much more relatable and enjoyable.

 

[zekko]

Disagree, hard times bring people back to religion.
Why Are More Men Going Back to Church in 2025? - RELEVANT

Similarly, strong men make easy times. Easy times make weak men. Weak men make hard times. Hard times make strong men.
Unlike some here, I see traditional values as coming from a place of strength. In fact, I see them as necessary for a healthy culture. Most of the problems discussed on this forum are the direct result of a departure from traditional values.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I started going to an episcopal church and I find that church much more relatable and enjoyable.

Much of The Manosphere functions as a church/temple, and The Red Pill itself has essentially come scripture in the eyes of it's True Believers. Neither men nor women stopped being religious, so much as they found new ones to adhere to, such as TRP and Intersectionality