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Women over 30 are Damaged Goods

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Men don’t date women over 30 because they are “damaged goods”


Among the many emails and texts that come into the show every day, one stood out to presenter Andrea Gilligan this morning.

The mail was from a listeners named Jerry who said he was inspired to get in touch by the show’s recent focus on the difficulties of dating for women.

He said the ‘hard truth’ is that “men don't want to date women over 30” and insisted there is “scientific evidence” backing up his claims.

“Men are very picky on age preferences because men of nearly all ages prefer women in their early 20s,” he said.

“Women are valued for their beauty, which goes downhill rapidly after age 25, so a man looking for children will look to date women five plus years younger than 30.

He said women above the age 30 are “damaged goods” and "hitting the wall".

"A woman aged 30 has a lower fertility because by the time she turns 30, she has lost 90% of her egg reserve and her fertility is already in decline,"
he said.

“I always tell my niece not to waste the precious years of her early 20s as so many modern women do.

"Sadly, most modern women nowadays end up marrying the 'Chad' type of guy while overlooking the nice guys or end up wasting their 20s, only to find that no man wants them after 30."

Stephanie called in to say Jerry must have “severely hurt by someone over 30” to write this email.

“I do believe there are people in this world with that mindset,” she said."However, I do not find that to be the mindset of the majority of people with sense and education and common decency.”

She said that many men do seem to end up dating younger women, even if they’re not as direct about it as Jerry.

“You see celebrities like Leo DiCaprio who’s only dated women under 25 and he’s well into 50s,” she said.

“I also believe there are men dating women older than them – it's preference.

But to put it in an email and say, ‘all men’ and ‘all women’... that was like being hit by a bus.”

Aideen told the show some men do end up dating younger women – but said she believes that is because women prefer older men.

“Men are fools, unfortunately, and they're much more immature than us women,” she said.

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My thoughts: The wall for romantic relationships is NOT softer than we think, Men are always attracted to young women in their 20s.The wall for companionship, nurturing, cooking, cleaning, paying half the bills is softer than we think. Men will always accept an older woman to do maid services and / or pay half the bills

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Your thoughts?
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Men don’t date women over 30 because they are “damaged goods”


Your thoughts?
To be human is to be damaged goods... Megan Fox was no less of a nutjob in her prime(late 2000s-very early 10s)than she is today, and since OP mentions DiCaprio... That twit is STILL relying on stage-managed "romances" with supermodels to maintain a facade of heterosexuality. Serious derangement is required, in order to still be convinced that getting out of the closet will damage his career
 

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Most men in their 30s-40s are pussie beggars who end up settling for whatever mediocre to subpar women they can get who is usually similarly aged to them.

There's still a strong market for women 30+ out there.
 

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Most men in their 30s-40s are pussie beggars who end up settling for whatever mediocre to subpar women they can get who is usually similarly aged to them.
I don't agree with this. At least I won't. Last women I was with was older, I took all her clothes and threw them away when she went back home to visit her parents. Now if they girl was young, I would have made it work, for sure. Older? Get out of my face. You have no leverage.

There's still a strong market for women 30+ out there.
For what though? For sex? I would say upto 37 is the maximum age, if she is hot, no matter how old the man is. Even that is pushing it.

For anything else, cooking, cleaning, companionship, paying the bills, yes there is a strong market for 30+ women out there.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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I don't agree with this. At least I won't. Last women I was with was older, I took all her clothes and threw them away when she went back home to visit her parents. Now if they girl was young, I would have made it work, for sure. Older? Get out of my face. You have no leverage.



For what though? For sex? I would say upto 37 is the maximum age, if she is hot, no matter how old the man is. Even that is pushing it.

For anything else, cooking, cleaning, companionship, paying the bills, yes there is a strong market for 30+ women out there.
You are not having the same experience as most men then. That comes across like a quiet brag.
 

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Most men in their 30s-40s are pussie beggars who end up settling for whatever mediocre to subpar women they can get who is usually similarly aged to them.

There's still a strong market for women 30+ out there.
Main problem is that after 30 a woman lived multiple lifes, I'd say up to 4 times she changed her identity. This 30 number is about the same time a man starts to develop. It's one of the most cruel discrepancies of mother nature between men and women.

Plenty of hot looking women in that age group, but if you actually deal.with then you'll learn that they are EXTREMELY difficult to deal with..

You are not having the same experience as most men then. That comes across like a quiet brag.
Prosti is running rampant. Plenty of hot women between 18 and 25 sell themselves starting at prices from 50 bucks up to 200 euro/ dollars.

You night get more burning desire this way than trying to begg a sub5 fat 50 + y.o woman for some coochie...
 

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Anytime I meet a couple where she is close to him or even older when it comes of age, I know there are some serious psychological issues in both of them.

He is generally weak minded and insecure while she is controlling and full of trauma (way above the average for women which says it all).

The find each other, the controlling woman needs a compliant man and the compliant man needs someone that validates him with dinamics similar to mother /son ones.
 

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Anytime I meet a couple where she is close to him or even older when it comes of age, I know there are some serious psychological issues in both of them.

He is generally weak minded and insecure while she is controlling and full of trauma (way above the average for women which says it all).

The find each other, the controlling woman needs a compliant man and the compliant man needs someone that validates him with dinamics similar to mother /son ones.
Very interesting take. Do you think it's the same if the couple formed when they were both 30 as opposed to both being 17?
 

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Very interesting take. Do you think it's the same if the couple formed when they were both 30 as opposed to both being 17?
If they met at high school and have been together the whole time I could be more lenient since basically she is getting the best out of him but she also gave him the best of her in her late 10s and 20s.

If they get together when he is 32 and she is 34, that's a chinese parade when it comes of red flags
 

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There's still a strong market for women 30+ out there.
For what though? For sex? I would say upto 37 is the maximum age, if she is hot, no matter how old the man is. Even that is pushing it.

For anything else, cooking, cleaning, companionship, paying the bills, yes there is a strong market for 30+ women out there.
For both short term sex and longer term relationships. Most men (even many game aware, red pill type men) cannot pull someone 10+ years younger. There are plenty of 30s-40s men who will have either short term sex or longer term committed relationships with 30s-40s women because that's all they can get.

Some 50+ men think women in their 30s-40s are awesome too.

There are plenty of women right now who are late 30s/early 40s finding they get more male attention on social media/swipe apps as compared to the level of attention they got on college campuses (if they attended college) in the early to mid 2000s (very early days of social media, when dating was more analog).
 

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Most men in their 30s-40s are pussie beggars who end up settling for whatever mediocre to subpar women they can get who is usually similarly aged to them.
All men can only choose amongst their choosers. And because most men are not silver foxes, they cannot attract 20-something gorgeous women. I don’t see how this is “begging”. It’s actually just matching.

Secondly, most seducers don’t want marriage or children. So I don’t see why they would care about women being over 25.
 

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most seducers don’t want marriage or children. So I don’t see why they would care about women being over 25.
I think more seducers are either undecided about marriage/children (the ones typically under 35) or want it at some point multiple years in the future (also typically ones under 35) as compared to never wanting marriage or children.

The primary reason that someone undecided or never wanting children would want to avoid women 26+ would be to try and avoid dealing with women with more baggage/drama.

Most seducers will either long term date or have shorter term casual sex with women 26+ or 30+.

There are women 30+ who could be decent girlfriend options for 1-3 years but wouldn't be wise to marry. There are enough men who will date those women for that 1-3 year period.
 

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no this!

there will always be simps, id say the vast majority of men today a simps compared to are grandfathers, but quality men a either staying single, not committing or going over seas.
I think this might be overinflated due to the internet age we live in. For instance, there's many mediocre women I know on instagram. However, when you look at their followers and comments, it's from third world people in south america or india or some poor chinese province. Which is not a true representation of her value. Nor will she ever interface with such men, so they have an overinflated ego that is falsely valued in reality.

Locally, most women still have the same limitations they've always had. The one problem is that women are very good at withholding sex cause they aren't fueled by testosterone like us men are. So their sex drives can be stalled for a long time until they like a guy. So they'll never make it easy for local men despite thats the best those women can do. Before feminism took root, even the good looking women would have an average guy at best who worked at the local factory or maybe is the son of a local business tyrant.

As for the topic, women 30+ are not worth it. You either run into one who says she's asexual or doesn't put out until she "found the one" or they are very sexually promiscuous, but by then, she has already ran through about at least ten to twenty guys in her life. Only good for a spot of fun but that's it.

I've always valued younger women. As I've said before, younger women does not bother me because some men make the mistake of making them your friends. No, she is not there for intelligent discussion. You're the older guy. You direct her, tell her what to do, and protect her. That's all you have to do, but then you get men being cringy saying "younger girls are children mentally and can't hold a conversation". If you're looking for a conversation partner, you will not find it in a sex partner. And then there's some guys who just wants to put a woman equal to him or sometimes above him like a mother. Neither are attractive traits.
 

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I think more seducers are either undecided about marriage/children (the ones typically under 35) or want it at some point multiple years in the future (also typically ones under 35) as compared to never wanting marriage or children.

The primary reason that someone undecided or never wanting children would want to avoid women 26+ would be to try and avoid dealing with women with more baggage/drama.

Most seducers will either long term date or have shorter term casual sex with women 26+ or 30+.

There are women 30+ who could be decent girlfriend options for 1-3 years but wouldn't be wise to marry. There are enough men who will date those women for that 1-3 year period.
Got it.

It you care to answer, how are men ***** beggars because they are limited in sexual selection by who likes them.
 

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It you care to answer, how are men ***** beggars because they are limited in sexual selection by who likes them.
I use the term "pussie beggars" because they often have few options and often have to basically accept whatever mediocre to subpar pussie options they can get.

This is the type of man who operates from scarcity mentality and not abundance mentality.

This is the experience of the majority of beta males in the USA and other Western countries once they reach their 30s-40s.
 
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