"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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When you always have to initiate

Oatmeal31

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This is about dealing with people in general, girls and guys, in regards to developing relationships with others, for the sake of connection.
Before I go on, in my experience, this is not a problem ON dates. Girls generally know better than to sit there and be a dead starfish. They ask questions because they are interested and/or to vet you.

I've been the quiet guy, I've been the listener, I've been the charismatic guy, the outspoken guy, I've been all over the spectrum. When you're quiet you're invisible. When you listen, people just yap and don't return the favor. When you are the charismatic guy, the one who initiates, carries the conversation, and lightens up the mood, people just take you for granted and almost never do the same in return.

People don't ask questions back. People don't greet. People don't reciprocate. It's not a two way street. People take. They take, take, and ****ing take.

Feels like an exercise in futility. A zero sum game. Most people are like this IN MY EXPERIENCE. Why even bother? This is why, when I sleep with enough women and fulfill my other goals, I'll retire myself to a farm, somewhere peaceful, quiet, and distance myself from others.


Should I swiftly cut off any attempts with dead ends and just focus on people who wholly reciprocate?



Do any of you experience this? This lack of sensibility and self-absorption from others?
 
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"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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BaronOfHair

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Do any of you experience this?
Sure did, then I stopped craving receiprocation.... Lo and behold, those I interacted with then began asking well-thought out questions back, greeting me, and reciprocating more often

I urge you to do likewise, hombre
 

CoolWave1331

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No initiation / no effort - you need to find a new tribe. Relationships with men & women should be balanced brother. Of course not going to be exactl 50/50 but you know what I mean.

You don't want to be person that is like 3rd choice and only hear from people who want something / need a favor only.
 

Clockwerk50

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I generally hate talking about myself. But when I do, I keep it light, cracking jokes or making things entertaining to stay on the surface. I’m perfectly fine letting others carry the conversation and talk about their lives. After all, as the saying goes, the fish dies by its mouth.

It’s funny how most heavy talkers don’t seem to have that inner voice asking, “Am I bothering you?”
 
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