Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Got a job and most of my co-workers are hot girls. How would I go about gaming? (Continued)

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What is the long game to you? Because if I don't up the ante at some point, they'll just lose interest and move on, single or not.
All you have to do is wait until somebody makes it easy for you. By "easy" I mean a legitimate invite somewhere else, outside of work hours, ideally alone or with a small handful of friends.

I'll give you an actual example, even though it's not the most transferable to your situation:

I was piss-drunk one night out with a friend a couple of years back. It was nearing closing time, and my friend pulled me over and told me this girl sitting next to him thinks I'm hot, and that I should talk to her.

I was so drunk that I peeked past him and saw her sitting down, but couldn't get much of an idea how she looked, so I drunkenly said, "I can't tell, is she hot?"

I was loud enough for her to overhear me, she laughed and responded, "Yes, I'm hot".

We ended up Ubering to her place shortly afterwards, and I banged her out a couple of times.

Like really don't jump on these women at your workplace unless you're absolutely certain she's giving you a lay-up.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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All you have to do is wait until somebody makes it easy for you. By "easy" I mean a legitimate invite somewhere else, outside of work hours, ideally alone or with a small handful of friends.

I'll give you an actual example, even though it's not the most transferable to your situation:

I was piss-drunk one night out with a friend a couple of years back. It was nearing closing time, and my friend pulled me over and told me this girl sitting next to him thinks I'm hot, and that I should talk to her.

I was so drunk that I peeked past him and saw her sitting down, but couldn't get much of an idea how she looked, so I drunkenly said, "I can't tell, is she hot?"

I was loud enough for her to overhear me, she laughed and responded, "Yes, I'm hot".

We ended up Ubering to her place shortly afterwards, and I banged her out a couple of times.

Like really don't jump on these women at your workplace unless you're absolutely certain she's giving you a lay-up.
Women don't lead, ever. This is why girls and guys that are afraid to make moves develop work crushes and never act on them. I know you said it's not the most transferable but your friend led for her. He did the legwork for her

So that's why I find your advice a bit confusing. Now, I've been invited out by guy coworkers before, and I guess there'd be a chance that one of the girls goes too. But I'm not a chance guy. I don't like playing by chance
 

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Women don't lead, ever. This is why girls and guys that are afraid to make moves develop work crushes and never act on them. I know you said it's not the most transferable but your friend led for her. He did the legwork for her
Yeah, but she made the move, indirect as it was.

You just need to have a little patience and recognize a lay-up if/when it happens. Otherwise, as with my initial advice, just do a good job, become a bartender, be a good bartender, and bang the hotties that become regulars to see you.
 

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Yeah, but she made the move, indirect as it was.

You just need to have a little patience and recognize a lay-up if/when it happens. Otherwise, as with my initial advice, just do a good job, become a bartender, be a good bartender, and bang the hotties that become regulars to see you.
If your friend didn't exist in this scenario, would you have noticed her making a move? I get layups aka indicators of interest from other girls at work too. Only way to truly know is to make a move I feel

One of the hostesses orbits around me and said I'm her favorite the other day. But from experience, I didn't think that was a layup. I think she's a yellow light atm. I've approached at least a few hundred women on the street. I can instantly recognize weak/strong interest consistently.

So, this girl I made a move on was more of a green light than most of the others. How was she not a layup? Maybe she just got cold feet and pu$$ied out

But listen, I appreciate your advice because I have a sh!t success rate anyway Being a bartender will be the goal
 

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Ive been through the same thing.

the more you get wrapped up in it the more your fail, if anythings going to happen it will naturally. I'd wait at least a year before you try to force anything. Go in be aloof but peep game after a year your finally starting to settle in and then you "suddenly notice" the cute girls. Your not the first guy to come rolling in their with a hard on, 304s are good at making you feel like your the only one, then when your guards down they get you to reveal yourself. And once your reveal your intentions its very difficult to regain the upper hand.

If you ask a girl out and she been playing you, shes love the idea of saying no just to sabotage your progress with other women. No matter what they say women like to feel special and if you ask the hottest girl out and she says no and word gets out (and it will) then you chances for other women even if they are interested will be zero. Girls just like guys dont want to be your second option. What you want to do is get the women talking about you and gossiping about you with out really knowing anything solid about you. Being Mr. HappySlappy (unless that's really who you are) isnt going to work you'll just end up being "fun" to talk meaning youll become a bf with out the seex, even worse then women ignoring you. Also if you do sleep with the them early on she better be the hottest one or else your basically cemented where you fit in and the hotter ones wont sleep with you out of peking order.

the best advice is to do nothing and use the vibes and energy of the situation to boost your confidence outside of work. Imagine every time you go to work your dating these hot women.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Update: Since that girl turned down drinks over text, I expected the next shift to be a bit off, but I just came in as usual, shooting the sh!t, flirting, and the other girls seemed more receptive than before.

I'm guessing she told the others I invited her out for drinks, which I predicted, and it seems like it may work in my favor based on the fact that nothing bad happened, and I'm getting more receptivity.

I acted the exact same with the one that turned down drinks, and now she comes up and initiates small talk every shift if I don't. Not interested in getting that one back, but I'm sure she says good things about me. I have others in my sights and continue to flirt with the other girls

Besides the other girls, there's this one cute, short, blonde hostess with a bubble butt that seems to really like me. I've been flirting with her every weekend we work, and I'd love to go for it, but I'm in a bit of a cooldown phase from asking the other one out.

I'm going to figure out a different way to go about it, so I hang out with her the day of. Gonna ask her how long she plans on staying in the restaurant too, so I have an idea of how much time I have to work with
 
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