"Are Dating Apps Really Stacked Against Men?"

[Plinco]

When it becomes available, I'll post my swipe app data from Tinder.

I suspect that I swipe left a lot more than most men do.

My experience over the last couple of months of using swipe apps, is that functionally I have had zero matches.

This video also confirms my beliefs that swipe apps are by far not the best way to meet women. In person approaching is far superior method.

 

[Gamisch]

There might be a few reasons for this:

1. You profile sucks.

2. The more sinister reason: they shadow banned you enticing you to pay the monthly subscription.

3. Location matters

4. Let's take a 1000 women. 600 will be in LTRs. 200 will be single doing Lord knows what. That leaves 200 women who are chronically on the apps and these women's brains are rewired/ fried when it comes to attraction towards men.

Their bar will be extremely high, they will monkeybrance as soon as there's a slight problem, and basically use OLD as a " boyfriend shop". Most likely the ration men/ women is also in their favor, so it's EXTREMELY difficult to be consistently successful.

Don't worry about it too much

 

[SW15]

I watched the video in its entirety.

Most men have a lousy match rate on their right swipes. Apps in general are a sausage fest.

This video also confirms my beliefs that swipe apps are by far not the best way to meet women.

They aren't. There are far more men than women on them.

However, it seems like swipe apps are the most common way that both short term and long term sexual relationships are now forming.

In person approaching is far superior method.

It seems like there's less of a culture around in-person approaching. It doesn't seem to be producing as many relationships anymore.

 

[Plinco]

There were a few posters on here who advocated for online dating. @CornbreadFed if I remember correctly.

There might be a few reasons for this:

1. You profile sucks.

2. The more sinister reason: they shadow banned you enticing you to pay the monthly subscription.

3. Location matters

4. Let's take a 1000 women. 600 will be in LTRs. 200 will be single doing Lord knows what. That leaves 200 women who are chronically on the apps and these women's brains are rewired/ fried when it comes to attraction towards men.

Their bar will be extremely high, they will monkeybrance as soon as there's a slight problem, and basically use OLD as a " boyfriend shop". Most likely the ration men/ women is also in their favor, so it's EXTREMELY difficult to be consistently successful.

Don't worry about it too much

Also, how many women 18-25 change their age preference to include men my age? Probably not too many. A recent "match" I got from Tinder was a 37 year old woman who claimed to be 21 on her Tinder profile, and then tried to play it off as an accident.

 

[BPH]

I'd say a solid 25%-30% of women I swipe on Tinder are bots.

New Here, stylized spelling of "snap" in bio with a name that doesn't even match theirs, 3-4 low-resolution pictures of a random hot Instagram model (usually a few of which are in the same outfit).

 

[Gamisch]

There were a few posters on here who advocated for online dating. @CornbreadFed if I remember correctly.



Also, how many women 18-25 change their age preference to include men my age? Probably not too many. A recent "match" I got from Tinder was a 37 year old woman who claimed to be 21 on her Tinder profile, and then tried to play it off as an accident.

Tbh getting women from that age category is even more difficult at your age.

There are fat 50 y.o women who will feel they " can do better" than you. Let alone prime créme de la créme p00sy...

I've learned to take OLD with a whole lot of grains of salt( while trying not to be salty).

If you REALLY wanna go for it you gotta make some changes. " Just being yourself" ain't gonna cut it anymore on OLD

 

[Plinco]

There are fat 50 y.o women who will feel they " can do better" than you. Let alone prime créme de la créme p00sy...

Guys like you and I don't care what these women think.

I judge myself on how effective I am with these beautiful young ladies.

 

[Solomon]

I noticed that ever since post-COVID all match group-based dating apps (Hinge, Tinder, OkCupid) have completely changed their algorithm, making it tougher to get matches that you can convert to meets. Hinge for example, has "Your turn limits," which basically limits women matching ability if women have 8 unanswered messages, forcing women to focus on the messages they already have instead of trying to get new ones. In theory, this is a great idea however, guess what, women are so lazy that instead of wanting to respond to men they already have in their match queue. They would rather delete the app

Also now with Bumble (which is not owned by match group) it was about women messaging men first now they have an option for men to message women.

I think success not only depends on your profile and looks. But also in your area and where you live. There are some apps for example in some states that are popular than others. Some apps have prettier or high-quality women i.e. Hinge, Bumble and some apps are hoorats and Mid chicks i.e. facebook dating. Some states or countries you may be sought after moreso because you are deemed "exotic" etc.

Your strategy first and foremost is to understand you're market and have a gameplan with your pictures and profiles, then execute and supplement it with meeting women in real life of course with summer coming up. I have never seen as much ass and tits as today, these women are advertising outside!

 

[SW15]

meeting women in real life of course with summer coming up. I have never seen as much ass and tits as today, these women are advertising outside!

I am noticing more women seem comfortable showing off their bare butts in mundane situations. I am noticing more women wearing 2 piece bikinis that show off their bare butts at apartment complex pools without an organized party or DJs. It's not a party situation but that doesn't seem to matter. When women are showing off butts and breasts in a seemingly random situation, it is thought provoking.

I understand women wanting to show off their bare butts at a commercialized pool party (a pool party attached connected to a business like a bar/restaurant, hotel) with hundreds of semi-strangers attending. That would be an opportunity to get laid and it's a great opportunity to advertise their butts and even breasts.

Getting Laid as a Result of Going to Pool Parties

After using the Search function here, I realize that there hasn't been a lot of discussion about getting laid as a result of going to pool parties. The lay doesn't have to happen on the same day as the pool party, but at some time after meeting a woman at a pool party. Let me be more specific...

www.sosuave.net

Pool parties are better option than dating apps. Get out there in real life!

 

[Solomon]

I am noticing more women seem comfortable showing off their bare butts in mundane situations. I am noticing more women wearing 2 piece bikinis that show off their bare butts at apartment complex pools without an organized party or DJs. It's not a party situation but that doesn't seem to matter. When women are showing off butts and breasts in a seemingly random situation, it is thought provoking.

I understand women wanting to show off their bare butts at a commercialized pool party (a pool party attached connected to a business like a bar/restaurant, hotel) with hundreds of semi-strangers attending. That would be an opportunity to get laid and it's a great opportunity to advertise their butts and even breasts.

Getting Laid as a Result of Going to Pool Parties

After using the Search function here, I realize that there hasn't been a lot of discussion about getting laid as a result of going to pool parties. The lay doesn't have to happen on the same day as the pool party, but at some time after meeting a woman at a pool party. Let me be more specific...

www.sosuave.net

Pool parties are better option than dating apps. Get out there in real life!

I have a theory I live in a state that is cold and snowy between October and April or May. Once it gets really hot outside, I'm talking about the first week that is 70-80 degrees. It feels like a heatwave compared to dealing with -20 to 30 degrees all winter. Women get horny and their libido goes through the roof. Could be the sun? hormones? I don't know I'm not a scientist I know Vitamin D boosts serotonin and libido etc However you will see women wear the skimpy's dresses, cleavage and butt popping out they shorts etc.

From June to Sepetember tend to be my best months then the horny women disappear not to be seen again until next May

 

[SW15]

I have a theory I live in a state that is cold and snowy between October and April or May. Once it gets really hot outside, I'm talking about the first week that is 70-80 degrees. It feels like a heatwave compared to dealing with -20 to 30 degrees all winter.

70-80 degrees feels warm in the colder states.

In Phoenix, 70-80 degrees is nothing. Phoenix is routinely between 100-115 degrees in the summer months. An 80 degree day in Phoenix will happen somewhere around Halloween. When I lived in Phoenix, my favorite week of the year was the 2nd week of October because that seemed to be a reliable marker of when high temperatures would fall below 90 degrees.

In Phoenix, women are hornier most of the year since high temperatures are above 70 degrees most of the year. The difference in women's horniness levels between December and June isn't as much.

In Dallas, it tends to get colder than it does in Phoenix. Dallas has mild winters. A typical day in December-January is around 55-60 degrees and the night time lows are around 35-40. There are some brief periods in Dallas where it drops below 32 degrees for a time. Temperatures in the 0-15 degree range can happen in Dallas, which does not happen in Phoenix.

Dallas female horniness levels don't drop that much, though it could be argued that they drop in the short cold snaps of 3-5 days that can happen.

The warmer, year round temperatures in Phoenix and Dallas are probably why cuffing season is less of a thing here. The entire US Southwest (Southern California, Las Vegas metro in Southern Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas) tends to have milder cuffing season because of warmer year round temperatures. The higher elevation spots in New Mexico and Arizona have colder winters but there's less population in those spots compared to the big Texas cities, big Southern Arizona cities, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and San Diego. Albuquerque is the biggest high elevation Southwestern city and its mating environment isn't talked about as much due to lower population.

Women get horny and their libido goes through the roof. Could be the sun? hormones? I don't know I'm not a scientist I know Vitamin D boosts serotonin and libido etc However you will see women wear the skimpy's dresses, cleavage and butt popping out they shorts etc.

From June to Sepetember tend to be my best months then the horny women disappear not to be seen again until next May

Women do that all the time in big cities in the US Southwest all the time. They might slow it down in winter a little bit. It's nothing like a winter in a northern state in the US.

 

[Solomon]

70-80 degrees feels warm in the colder states.

In Phoenix, 70-80 degrees is nothing. Phoenix is routinely between 100-115 degrees in the summer months. An 80 degree day in Phoenix will happen somewhere around Halloween. When I lived in Phoenix, my favorite week of the year was the 2nd week of October because that seemed to be a reliable marker of when high temperatures would fall below 90 degrees.

In Phoenix, women are hornier most of the year since high temperatures are above 70 degrees most of the year. The difference in women's horniness levels between December and June isn't as much.

In Dallas, it tends to get colder than it does in Phoenix. Dallas has mild winters. A typical day in December-January is around 55-60 degrees and the night time lows are around 35-40. There are some brief periods in Dallas where it drops below 32 degrees for a time. Temperatures in the 0-15 degree range can happen in Dallas, which does not happen in Phoenix.

Dallas female horniness levels don't drop that much, though it could be argued that they drop in the short cold snaps of 3-5 days that can happen.

The warmer, year round temperatures in Phoenix and Dallas are probably why cuffing season is less of a thing here. The entire US Southwest (Southern California, Las Vegas metro in Southern Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas) tends to have milder cuffing season because of warmer year round temperatures. The higher elevation spots in New Mexico and Arizona have colder winters but there's less population in those spots compared to the big Texas cities, big Southern Arizona cities, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and San Diego. Albuquerque is the biggest high elevation Southwestern city and its mating environment isn't talked about as much due to lower population.



Women do that all the time in big cities in the US Southwest all the time. They might slow it down in winter a little bit. It's nothing like a winter in a northern state in the US.

Living in the Midwest in a state where it's not unusual to have cold as low as -50 for a couple of weeks or throughout the winter. Once it goes to 70 degrees, it's definitely noticeable shift. Also, it's always dreary out like a Harry Potter movie, the sun and blue sky come out and now all the women come out half naked lmfao I'm not complaining.

I literally live 5 minutes from a volleyball court. Last week it was 80 degrees during mothers day and there were a bunch of women playing and a couple you could see everything, nothing was left to the imagination. Now mind you this is a conservative suburb in the Midwest and these women were damn near naked. Some of them should have had clothes on cause they were built like 15-year-old boys lol.

 

[SW15]

I literally live 5 minutes from a volleyball court. Last week it was 80 degrees during mothers day and there were a bunch of women playing and a couple you could see everything, nothing was left to imagination. Now mind you this is a conservative suburb in the Midwest and these women were damn near naked.

That is less expected in a conservative Midwestern suburb as compared to Dallas.

I played in sand volleyball leagues for a few seasons in the 2010s. Around that time, I was also playing pickup games of sand volleyball. There would be women who would wear skimpy attire for sand volleyball. Some women will show off their butts for sand volleyball too. That's less common even in Dallas at sand volleyball venues (often attached to bars).

In general, sand volleyball tends to be more of a sausage fest.

Women who play sand volleyball are swarmed by men.

Some of them should have had clothes on cause they were built like 15-year-old boys lol.

That isn't a pleasant mental image. The only positive thing in that situation is that they weren't overweight.

 

[BaronOfHair]

No... They're stacked against dudes who still haven't acquired a less dweeby surname than Smigel, and who continue to gag on David Foster Wallace's long-decayed penis, eons after THAT most overrated man of letters departed this chunk of dirt

 

[Smok1nAce]

If you seen the hayday of the apps you wouldn't need to watch a youtuber (trying to make money) have to tell you that.

The apps have become a beacon for the lowest quality. Yes there are exception but those girls are quickly off the app. Same goes for guys but in the beta times were finding ourselves in the average moron is desperate so the circle of BS continues.

and this is why the app is stacked, endless supply of simps with the fact that very attractive women will not be on the app cutting out a portion of the female percentage.

The main reason the app suks is because 75% or more of the users dont use it ass intended (a quick way to set up a date) if you need to send more then a few texts you wasting your time.

Best advice is to get professional photos taken, be serious in what you want and get off the app. I'd go as far to say is if you haven't had any dates in a month you need to reevaluate your profile or just delete the app.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I used Tinder in 2019. It was fantastic. T!ts on Tap!

I can’t vouch for it now. No idea.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I can't think of a single reason why a person with a functioning social circle would need to be on a Dating app in 2025

They're well known and documented to be filled with bottom of the barrel dating options nobody else wants

Most of the women figured this out years ago and left .... there is ZERO incentive for an attractive and freindly woman to be on a dating app its borderline embrassing for them to be seen on there unless there is something severely wrong with her or she lives somewhere incredibly remote

A woman isnt going to go to catch up with her girlfriends and start bragging about the random dude she met on tinder its become highly unfashionable for them to even mention online dating

The apps know this is a real problem from user data which is why they flood it with fake female profiles to try and entice desperate men to pay for subscriptions in the hope of matching with a profile that doesn't even exist

Men whom are much slower and much more desperate when it comes to dating and don't really have the social pressures women do , have taken far far longer to figure out just how bad the ROI is on these apps

But I mean we are talking about guys who are likely still virgins in their 30's and never interact with women so they likely have no other option other than pay the subscription and hope to god some HB 5 will give them pity sex

Its a very very sorry state of affairs but like I said its just a race to the bottom for both sexes if you are at the bottom of the dating market for whatever reason theres a possibility you could meet a partner also down there

For anyone who thinks they can / deserve better than the matches they are getting then forget about it

 

[Solomon]

If you seen the hayday of the apps you wouldn't need to watch a youtuber (trying to make money) have to tell you that.

The apps have become a beacon for the lowest quality. Yes there are exception but those girls are quickly off the app. Same goes for guys but in the beta times were finding ourselves in the average moron is desperate so the circle of BS continues.

and this is why the app is stacked, endless supply of simps with the fact that very attractive women will not be on the app cutting out a portion of the female percentage.

The main reason the app suks is because 75% or more of the users dont use it ass intended (a quick way to set up a date) if you need to send more then a few texts you wasting your time.

Best advice is to get professional photos taken, be serious in what you want and get off the app. I'd go as far to say is if you haven't had any dates in a month you need to reevaluate your profile or just delete the app.

Totally agree with this, I always use to joke that the hottest women in my state weren't on the apps and it still rings true today, sure the quality has improved massively from POF days to today. However, even with the hot women on say Bumble, most don't take the apps seriously or they have been ran through by all the quality men they know in real life who don't take them seriously cause those women are bops.

Apps should supplement you're real life game the main issue is for most men now days the apps are sadly their only game