When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Ill take him over most dating coaches the last decade what dont you like about him I find him to be the most base redpill/bluepill figure out right now.I'm not the biggest fan of Jordan Peterson but I respect him for having balls and standing up for his beliefs. The guy was a tenured professor at the University of Toronto (arguably the most prestos university in Canada). He also had a successful practice as a clinical psychologist. He had to give it all up because he was opposed to political correctness and the woke agenda. His psychologist license was revoked over the gender pronouns nonsense and he resigned from U of T to protest DEI initiatives (they made it impossible for straight white males to get research positions). He's one of those rare people who actually put their money where their mouth is.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
elaborate!!I watched peterson's interview on lex friedman and decided he's not someone worth listening to. Then lex friedman interviewed zelensky, so I unsubscribed and blocked him as well.
The only advice worth listening to is whoever tells you to make money.
Both peterson and lex are on the bleeding edge of B/S. Whatever B/S is popular, they roll with it. Blind people follow. It's their business, they make money on B/S. So take advice from what they do, not what they say, make a ton of money.
I agree with this. For the most part, his influence is beneficial. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed watching his butt kicked in a debate years ago.I'm not the biggest fan of Jordan Peterson but I respect him for having balls and standing up for his beliefs. The guy was a tenured professor at the University of Toronto (arguably the most prestos university in Canada). He also had a successful practice as a clinical psychologist. He had to give it all up because he was opposed to political correctness and the woke agenda. His psychologist license was revoked over the gender pronouns nonsense and he resigned from U of T to protest DEI initiatives (they made it impossible for straight white males to get research positions). He's one of those rare people who actually put their money where their mouth is.
Which debate?I agree with this. For the most part, his influence is beneficial. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed watching his butt kicked in a debate years ago.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Good point but if Elliot wasn't an incel I don't know who is.A lot of mass killings, even ones that weren't specifically motivated by inceldom (like Elliott Rodger), have been carried out by men who get little to no sex.
Jordan Peterson is onto something when he says society would be more stable if we returned to the days when just about every man got a woman.
Yeah because women have no feelings so you should just be able to buy them like they are kettle.A lot of mass killings, even ones that weren't specifically motivated by inceldom (like Elliott Rodger), have been carried out by men who get little to no sex.
Jordan Peterson is onto something when he says society would be more stable if we returned to the days when just about every man got a woman.
I probably could have worded my post better.Good point but if Elliot wasn't an incel I don't know who is.
Somehow I knew I'd get words put in my mouth for making that post.Yeah because women have no feelings so you should just be able to buy them like they are kettle.
You're insane.
I hope you understand way this comment is highly inappropriate. Imagine being a loved one of one of those victims and hearing incels say this out loud. It's basically a threat.I probably could have worded my post better.
I meant it as in: Elliott's mass killing was specifically motivated by his inceldom. On the other hand, there have been mass killings that were carried out by incels even if the official motivation wasn't inceldom.
Perhaps the most notable example of a mass killing carried out by an incel (but for a motivation other than inceldom) is Timothy McVeigh.
There was all sorts of stuff wrong with Timothy McVeigh. That being said, if he had better luck with the ladies, it's quite possible he wouldn't have mentally degraded to the point of going on his rampage.
Somehow I knew I'd get words put in my mouth for making that post.
No, I'm not saying a man should buy a woman, nor am I saying a woman should get forced to be with a man she's not attracted to.
I mentioned Timothy McVeigh to the other poster.
Timothy McVeigh wasn't a bad-looking guy. Yet, based on what I've read about him, it's likely he died a virgin. The one woman he expressed interest in wasn't into him.
Additionally, Timothy was on record saying he was nervous around the ladies (which would explain why he didn't make moves more often)
If a woman making a move on a man was the social norm, however, I guarantee gals would have made moves on Timothy McVeigh (which, as a result, would have drawn his attention away from plotting a rampage)
In other words, a society where a woman makes a move on a man she's attracted to could have prevented all those victims from dying in Oklahoma City.
I'm in no way saying what Elliott and Timothy did was good, nor am I saying I'd do what they did.I hope you understand way this comment is highly inappropriate. Imagine being a loved one of one of those victims and hearing incels say this out loud. It's basically a threat.
You put the blame on individual women that have the freedom of choice to NOT want him. Women are not one entity like "a government ". Every woman is an individual being.
For all we know that maniac would chill the feck down on a Friday, have some ballz and be social with people and women and find a nice "gall". Or he would've swiped right on a Bleu Sunday and matched a cutie.
The fact that you justify this tells me all I need to know about you( may there have been aby hope for you). You should be ashamed for saying this.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
1.) Nobody is entitled to anythingA lot of mass killings, even ones that weren't specifically motivated by inceldom (like Elliott Rodger), have been carried out by men who get little to no sex.
Jordan Peterson is onto something when he says society would be more stable if we returned to the days when just about every man got a woman.
A major pet peeve of mine is when men get accused of feeling "entitled" simply because we vent about bad luck with the ladies.1.) Nobody is entitled to anything
2.) Relationships are an addition to your life, not a necessity.
Elliott Rodger had a whole bunch of mental issues. The lack of sex is not the problem, it's a merely symptom.
I appreciate your honesty. This shows you have a grounding to reality that some posters on here lack.Lastly, to address your comment about Elliott Rodger having all sorts of mental issues: You're 100% correct.
With how much I have in common with Elliott Rodger, I can relate to him on a level the vast majority of posters on this forum are unable to.
Elliott Rodger:
All of those points describe me too.
- mentally ill autist
- got bullied growing up for being small and socially awkward
- wealthy parents
- good looks, yet a crippling social phobia that held him back with the ladies
I can tell you something: Being a teen/early 20-something male autist is miserable. You're full of hormones, yet have a hard time finding a woman to exercise those hormones on. And Elliott Rodger had it even worse than me. He was a virgin who had never been on a date or kissed anyone. I at least had sex, got kissed, and went on dates by the time I was 22 (the age Elliott Rodger died at).
If I were angry, I would have no one to blame but myself. As an adult, you are 100% responsible for your own welfare. If you want to be loved, you have to earn it. Granted, I understand that's a hard thing to do. Unfortunately, many men use sex as a means of silencing their mental problems and women for transactional reasons.A major pet peeve of mine is when men get accused of feeling "entitled" simply because we vent about bad luck with the ladies.
Wanting success with the ladies (and being upset at our lack of success) doesn't mean we feel entitled; all it means is we're angry.
Next, to address your comment about relationships being an addition; not a necessity: What you're saying is technically true. A lifetime without relationships or sex is a miserable way to live, however. Would you be willing to live like that? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't. So you're really in no position to criticize incels for being angry about having to live like that. You'd be angry too if you were in their position.
Feminism is an advocacy for female supremacy. You can almost count on every feminist being inconsistent and contradictory with their ideas. For example, a feminist accuses Elliot Rodger of feeling entitled (correct) while being entitled to receive government welfare to raise her illegitimate children (incorrect).In my experience, it's typically feminists who (falsely) smear us as "entitled." It's pretty alarming multiple men on this forum have also called us entitled. I'd expect men to know better than to throw false "entitlement" accusations at fellow men.
"If you want to be loved, you have to earn it"I appreciate your honesty. This shows you have a grounding to reality that some posters on here lack.
If I were angry, I would have no one to blame but myself. As an adult, you are 100% responsible for your own welfare. If you want to be loved, you have to earn it. Granted, I understand that's a hard thing to do. Unfortunately, many men use sex as a means of silencing their mental problems and women for transactional reasons.
Feminism is an advocacy for female supremacy. You can almost count on every feminist being inconsistent and contradictory with their ideas. For example, a feminist accuses Elliot Rodger of feeling entitled (correct) while being entitled to receive government welfare to raise her illegitimate children (incorrect).
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.