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Roll over them, or get rolled over
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You drunk high, or both?I've been through the rollercoaster many times and can vouch for it
Women love the rollercoaster, by the way.
They love the ups and downs
It's their thrill of life!
If they don't have these, they get bored and think about divorce.
Ask me how I know, rookie
I'm just calling you as blue-pilled, buddyYou drunk high, or both?
I'll take the bait;
How do you know Experienced Dating Overlord?
Are you drunk, high, or both?You drunk high, or both?
I'll take the bait;
How do you know Experienced Dating Overlord?
You said ask me how I know . You can vouch for that post so I assume you too are a bluepilled beta buddy?I'm just calling you as blue-pilled, buddy
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I'm best on the booze broYou said ask me how I know . You can vouch for that post so I assume you too are a bluepilled beta buddy?
Perhaps you should lay off the booze before responding?
You aight bro?Are you drunk, high, or both?
Because you would have to be to think that women want a "nice" guy
Have you ever been around a woman?
My mission since I've been back is to promote being an assh0le.You aight bro?
Read again. I say the average bluepilled guy keeps HEARING about badboys . Don't know what made you think I ever said women want niceguys, you muppet.
There's a circus missing a clown I've heard. Read before responding homie
You completely misread my post and now you're just making a fool out of yourself.I loferlll
My mission since I've been back is to promote being an assh0le.
I have a thread where my girl sexted another dude, yet I still promote being an assh0le
I'm old. I've been on sosuave for a long time.
I learned what women like. Men that are in charge. And men that take charge are usually assh0les.
You can cry about it.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
It's my birthday lolYou completely misread my post and now you're just making a fool out of yourself.
Just enjoy your new years eve bro!
All women want a rollercoaster. It doesn't matter if you're introverted or extroverted. They want it regardlessI do understand your confusion because popular media keeps showing women actually talking about this over and over again. A normal woman talking normal shyte wint get no views..
So the generic dude/ beta /niceguy watching front the sidelines thinks " hey if I become a toxic badboy I will increase my chances with women".
You only forget that being a toxic badboy who goes through emotional rollercoasters with equally toxic women comes with a price. That price is your sanity and self-esteem and sometimes much more like money,freedom or your life.
Never forget how easily women can switch from A to Z if needed...jail and the cemetery are full of toxic badboys who got there due to women. Big part of being toxic is excalty that: toxic, non-functioning behaviour that makes a you a loose canon.
Are you ready to either die or do life for an hb7? ( a stretch, I know but none of those man expected that outcome neither)
And how you deal with women is keeping a strong hand. Frame, whateverAll women want a rollercoaster. It doesn't matter if you're introverted or extroverted. They want it regardless
Learn this. Accept it. Get ready for it...
Learn how to handle it, if you want to deal with women.
It's a fact of life
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
A great must must find what that "own" means.You create your own world and if it’s of value women will flock to you.
Disagree. IME the best relationships take up very little mental bandwidth. If there's "drama" then there's some disconnect that will rear its head down the line. May work (or not affect) torrid short term affairs, but long term things function better when people are more self assured. Doesn't mean anyone's perfect or that there are no disagreements. Acceding to some chick's desire for a roller coaster is just another behavior rooted in scarcity. Not my job to fix those chicks so frame=arrivederci.long-lasting relationships often seem to function better when there is an unstable male paired with a woman who seeks to stabilize him. It appears that many women are drawn to men with imperfections, as it allows them to feel a sense of purpose in their relationship.
I mean, you want to be the serious and good man, but if you're very centered about your life, serious, geared towards your goals, rational, calm, kind, it's also really hard for you to be or make someone feel the emotional rollercoaster, as you've said.So the generic dude/ beta /niceguy watching front the sidelines thinks " hey if I become a toxic badboy I will increase my chances with women".
I think I might need to try women from abroad because I'm talking about my POV here in Italy.Disagree. IME the best relationships take up very little mental bandwidth. If there's "drama" then there's some disconnect that will rear its head down the line. May work (or not affect) torrid short term affairs, but long term things function better when people are more self assured. Doesn't mean anyone's perfect or that there are no disagreements. Acceding to some chick's desire for a roller coaster is just another behavior rooted in scarcity. Not my job to fix those chicks so frame=arrivederci.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.