“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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6 reasons to date girls you're not attracted to

GoodMan32

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I spent 8 months dating a woman I wasn't even attracted to. I have mixed opinions on whether dating her was worth it.

There was also that time when a woman I wasn't even attracted to contacted me on datehookup. We set up a 3 day weekend at my place. I couldn't even make it through day one before I sent her home.

And there was a strange/unattractive classmate I dated in college. I could only make it a week before dumping her.

In conclusion, if you get a girlfriend you aren't attracted to, you'll (more likely than not) quickly pull the plug on the relationship.
 

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There was a time when I was trying to learn game and understand women. There were a few women I went out with that I was barely attracted to(HB6's). I wanted sex, needed to increase my understanding of women, and gain more experience. Its kind of like accepting a job that isn't really what you want, but you knew it would pay the bills, and give you more experience that could help you down road.

Once I got better with women, I would only date those that were attractive.
I could easily be genuinely attracted to a 6.

I've dipped down below 5.
 

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I have some ideas for his future newsletters:

1) Seven reasons to take up hobbies you hate
2) Five reasons to watch TV shows that bore you to death
3) Eight reasons to eat food that tastes like sh!t
1. Hitting the gym. Cardio. Pushup and yoga in the morning. Most men hate it but it's a necessary evil.
2. Sometimes you need to watch some boring ish to learn some new
3. And sometimes the most healthy food has the most blunt taste.

Just messing with you bro, you are absolutely right.
 

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The stupid thing about this advice is the 'date' part. You should never date any person you're not attracted to.

I can't help having some sort of 'flirt tone' in my voice whenever I speak with women, basically all women. Young, old, attractive, unattractive. I didn't even notice this, it was brought to my attention by my wife, who said she could by the tone in my voice whether I was speaking with a man or a woman on the telephone.
Being friendly and flirty people you're not attracted to costs you nothing but is very educational.
Flirting is about making the other person feel better about themselves. If you can make someone feel good about themselves, they will remember that feeling as a result of being in your company. When people feel good in your company, you will attract more and more people.
I noticed about flirting with people I was not attracted to is that it's actually more difficult to successfully flirt with unattractive people, especially the unattractive people with low self-esteem, because they don't trust your sincerity.
Making someone who feels good about themselves feel better about themselves is a lot easier than making someone who feels bad about themselves feel good about themselves. Flirting with people who know they are attractive is easy in comparison, because your compliments confirm their attractiveness, they have no reason to doubt your sincerity. The difficulty convincing a suspicious person of your sincerity will make you work on your skills of persuasion and how to increase your congruity.
This is also how I learned how to flirt without an overt sexual undertone. Basically, it's like paying men a compliment without having to add 'nohomo' to your statement. If you can make an unattractive person (who is possibly attracted to you) feel good about themselves without sexual undertones that send the wrong signal, it's a deceptively subtle manipulation that you can often use to create goodwill in those you loathe.
One big issue that we don't talk about that much is the fact that most men's " attractiveness standards" are heavily messed up by watching p0rn their entire life.

Women use this as leverage, just think about these video's where a hb2 transforms into a baddie by putting on the right make up. They can buy jeans with an additional azz attached to it and brahs that fill up their chest.

Women have the same problem by the way, where they not just fancy famous dude xyz, but nowadays literally want a man who resembles him exactly ( basically, HIM)

But I'm talking bout men now. A "normal " looking girl ( hb6/7) oftentimes gets overlooked because she doesn't trigger that little sausage in men's pants.

It's a deep and difficult topic exactly.
 
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I've had an orbiter or two, and said no to some potential girlfriends (their perspective).


It depends on how capable as a man you are. If you're very desperate or inexperienced, then picking up someone with a diagnosis or some form of emotional/social issues might be worth it. If you're more capable, such as being able to deal with loneliness by yourself, then you don't have to go looking in the trashcan.
 

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Or become more attractive, with more game, better social skills, develop personality, be a more fun guy.
Yes they can do that, at the expense of time. Of course that is their choice. Those can’t be expanded upon much though, I believe.
I disagree but there was a song about this back in the day which was quite popular! :rofl:

So I don't know.

I actually didn’t say men should go for women they’re not attracted to at all. I said “less attractive”.
 

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Whilst its a nice idea and if your getting zero interest or interaction with women it could get the wheels moving

This type of strategy has a ceiling....women are highly observant if you're hanging around with 4's even a 6 is going to give you sh1t as she will class herself out of your leauge

Women are egotistical they want too secure you from another (better) woman

You being with a woman less than you pretty much cements your status

As a man its always smarter to date up than down ....
 

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I passed over plenty of women, but most women can take subtle hints so that rarely becomes dramatic. I rarely got negative blowback. Breakups are a different story, but then, most women have an axe to grind when you break up with them.
A technique to consider: 1-2 weeks before the breakup, tell her about a problem in the relationship she can't fix. She then stews on it, loses some confidence that things are going well, and talks about it to her friends. When you mention the problem again and say things aren't working out, she's already prepared herself.
 

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I disagree but there was a song about this back in the day which was quite popular! :rofl:
Then there's the flip side, in an... old.. song from 2007 called "Beautiful Girls" by Sean Kingston:

You're way too beautiful, girl
That's why it'll never work
You have me suicidal, suicidal
When you say it's over
 

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I'd say there is a difference between having realistic standards and dating girls you are not even attracted to. In the case of the latter, what is the point? You might as well start playing for the other team.
Right. I don’t agree with the linked article 100 percent. I meant some would do better going for women LESS attractive than they hope for. I didn’t mean no attraction.
 

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One of latest newsletters from alan thompson goes against the advice given by posters on these forums. If a man listened to advice on these forums he would have blue balls waiting for a unicorn to show up. Below is the newsletter :-

Today's tip is guaranteed to be controversial.

Some of you are going to read it, nod along, and think this is great advice.

And some of you are going to get mad, email me and tell me it is the worst tip ever.

LOL!

Read on, and let me know what you think...



6 Reasons to Date Girls You Are NOT Attracted To

by Joseph


Here's the number one all-time most important tip that you will ever get.

Get a girlfriend!

"What?" I hear you say. "But that's exactly why I'm getting these tips, because I can't get a girlfriend."

Really? Are you being completely honest with yourself?

What about that chubby girl that used to smile at you a lot? Or that slightly nerdy girl that seemed interested in you? You know what I mean don't you?

You know that you have passed up girls that you aren't interested in because they don't meet some standard, because they are not the one you could consider falling in love with.

Well, my friend, you are making a huge mistake.

If you are alone and the only girl that seems interested in you is a "2" and is 100 lbs. overweight, go out with her!

You don't have to marry her. You don't have to be long term. You don't have to even get intimate with her. But for goodness sake, take her out somewhere and have a good time together.

Why? Well, there are lots of reasons.


6 Reasons to Get a Girlfriend - Any Girlfriend

1) You will not be lonely and isolated.

Even though you will feel less than content and satisfied, at some level in your subconscious you are having basic human needs for affection, attention, and company with the opposite sex met. You will, even without realizing it, be more relaxed and confident.

2) You will prevent yourself from sliding down a black hole of alienation, social isolation, depression and loneliness.

You will "have a life." This is good for you generally, and good for the vibe you will radiate at other women.

3) She will introduce you into her social circle.

You will meet potential friends, you will have a social life, you will feel even better about life, and you will meet more women in a social setting.

4) You will be getting practice and experience just hanging out with and conversing with a woman.

You will be learning more and more about how to act around women. This will come more naturally.

5) You will be seen about with her.

DON'T be embarrassed by this! Believe me, the 3-5's will notice and wonder what she's got that they haven't. There is nothing worse than being constantly seen about town moping about by yourself.

6) Now, assuming you don't fall in love with her (don't laugh, it happens), you will be in a perfect position to start dating a 3-5 when she starts showing interest in you...

And then that will lead to you being noticed by the 5-7s... and then you are pretty close to being noticed by the ones you really like, by which stage you will be ready to interact with them more naturally.

Get it?


What's Stopping You?

What stops you from doing this?

Is it really because a less than beautiful girl repulses you? I doubt it.

It is probably because you are a decent and good young man who doesn't want to lead on a girl that he isn't REALLY interested in.

You don't want to hurt her. You don't want to date her for a while and then dump her do you? You are scared of "using" her. You don't like hurting females, and that is a good thing and something you should be proud of.

So, how to get around this?

Well, the first thing is that you keep it casual and you don't promise any more than you are ready to give. Don't lead her on!

Date her, enjoy each others company, but don't deceive her and don't use her.

If and when the time comes to move on, say this:

"Look Julie, I've had a good time with you over the last few weeks/months, but I just don't feel any romantic vibe happening between us and I think it's time to move on."

DON'T tell her that you are not attracted to her, and don't tell her you want to be "just friends."

If you tell her that you don't feel romance happening between you, then this is a language that females understand.


Do It Now!

So get out there and get a girlfriend, ANY GIRLFRIEND!

DO IT NOW!

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I would like to thank Joseph for submitting this tip. I'm sure that many of you will find it quite insightful.

And some of you will not like it at all.

But when it comes to dating, there is no substitute for practice and experience.

Good luck!

Allen
SoSuave.com





I want your thoughts and opinions. What do you like about this newsletter? What do you dislike about this newsletter? What topics interest you the most? What questions do you have about women and dating? Just hit reply and let me know.
True,

But she asked me to get married lmao, I couldn’t even have sex with her because I wasn’t that attracted to her . Not that shes ugly but I couldn’t lmao.

however I did sleep with another girl albeit small bxxbs who wasn’t that attractive and after that i was open to having sex with the average looking girls as long as we are getting good.
So basically once you get experience you won’t mind sleeping with normal average girls.! Because that hottie might be dirty than that sweet weirdo who stay away from everything lol
 

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To be fair, i thought the newsletter was more along the lines of no harm having a girl as a friend with benefits until you find a better one.

Not worth my time entertaining a girl if i'm not getting my di** wet.
 

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Have to say I disagree with this! It's silly to date someone you're not attracted to.

It's no big deal being seen about town by yourself either....and you don't need to be 'moping' if you're by yourself. Confident, alpha men don't need to swan around in packs or always be seen with women, they can hunt alone and enjoy their own company.

This whole post is just way off the mark.
 

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Came late to this party, but agree with @Gamisch. Also there is a factor that if you are embarassed to be seeing with such a girlfriend in public, or if people looks at you as a couple, or ask questions like, is the lady you are with your mother, etc..... or your folks/family/friends are in shock that you with someone that looks like her, then there are allot of negatives involved.

I of myself am not that picky in terms of looks when it comes to women, but as @Gamisch pointed out, if that hb4 feels she is the best that I can get and I need her more than she needs me then that's a set-up for more disappointment, heartbreak and anger. You'll just inflate her ego, she'll think she can actually do better, and will treat you poorly and have one foot out the door the whole time.

A girlfriend and yourself should at least look somewhat "natural" together with you as a couple. People should not wonder if she is your mother, daughter, or what is the deal with you both together. Sometimes, you have less attention if you are by yourself then if you are with someone that doesn't look natural with you.
 

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If a man has a problem with simping he should definitely find a less attractive woman he doesn’t feel like he needs to give all his money and always say yes to

or if a man has nobody at all and is depressed or hateful but he has less attractive options he should probably take them.

but otherwise lowering your standards too much is a bad idea. There’s still ugly 304s and gold diggers. If you think your girl is ugly you probably won’t be happy with her. Etc.
 

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Nothing wrong with having junk food from time to time but don’t make it your regular diet.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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