"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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You know what else leads to frustration, depression, PTSD, etc? Embracing victimhood.
In 2012, I hadn't heard of MGTOW or inceldom yet. Yet I still ended up frustrated/developing unhealthy thoughts (because of how hard of a time I had getting/keeping a woman)

And 2012 was the best year I ever had sexually (in terms of how many partners I had that year, all of which were free). But my track record was still lackluster compared to normies.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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That was not a call for you to embrace your victimhood, dude. We all know you're a victim of your autism, a victim of your desire for dried up old 'broads' because you're a victim of your fear of giving your sh!tty DNA to a woman who might squeeze out a retard.
More like I don't want a woman to pop out a baby who might get bullied for his/her body hair.
 

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In 2012, I hadn't heard of MGTOW or inceldom yet. Yet I still ended up frustrated/developing unhealthy thoughts (because of how hard of a time I had getting/keeping a woman)

And 2012 was the best year I ever had sexually (in terms of how many partners I had that year, all of which were free). But my track record was still lackluster compared to normies.
Interesting. 2012 was also the best year I had romantically. Dealt with a girl I met online for the greater part of the year, and I really liked her, and went allot of places together with her and spent ALLOT of time together. But, over 12 years ago for both of us right? While I got married in 2014, I still remember 2012 as one of the best years of the last decade.
 

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Amazing the extent some posters twist logic to slag the OP. Almost like they're looking for someone to beat down and lack the impulse control for restraint.

There's always kicking stuffed animals if the urge can't be controlled, just sayin'
 

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Amazing the extent some posters twist logic to slag the OP. Almost like they're looking for someone to beat down and lack the impulse control for restraint.

There's always kicking stuffed animals if the urge can't be controlled, just sayin'
There is always the ignore button.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Amazing the extent some posters twist logic to slag the OP. Almost like they're looking for someone to beat down and lack the impulse control for restraint.

There's always kicking stuffed animals if the urge can't be controlled, just sayin'
OP has a long-established pattern of doom saying. Characterizing the sharp replies as "slagging a fellow board member" is thus no less disingenuous than accusing Jimmy Carr of "bullying", whenever he rips a heckler
 

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This is similar to door to door sales. A fair amount of doors get slammed in your face, no matter how adept you are. All that's humanly possible... We can become more proficient, by constantly acquiring more knowledge, and recalibrating beliefs which we previously mistook for Holy Writ

Any guy who's expecting panties to always fall to the floor, each and every time he's within a 100 feet of some chick he'd like to bone, is in for more heartache than the journalist who's expecting John Ramsey to finally say out loud: "I just may be complicit in JonBenet unexpectedly departing the planet, even if that complicity took the form of simply not getting her away from Patsy"
 
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Asking for directions or time went with the smartphone. Everyone uses the smartphone, plus over entitled women would see it as a lame pick up.
This isn't true. But if that's how you see things, that's how they will be. There are a million other things you can say to a woman that aren't creepy, but there are as many excuses not to bother.
 

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If a vid of her response were to go viral, there would be comments galore saying stuff like "We don't know what he did before the filming. He probably brought it on himself"
If a chicken had lips it could whistle. I don't film my daily interactions...
 

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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Oh, and another thing that leads to frustration, depression, PTSD, etc, is reading comments on Youtube videos.

Assuming you're not already too far gone.
Goes to a point mentioned here https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/smv-and-age-difference.283244/page-4#post-3139595

These fellas who are convinced "There's nothing I can do to alter my circumstances!!!" are similar to hipsters in Brooklyn and Berkely who lament: "I can barely make ends meet, and wealth redistribution is all that can make my life easier!!!"

All while violently resisting the observation that many of their own lifestyle choices(Buying every game system on the market, dining at the most expensive restaurants 5 nights a week, dropping close to a grand per week on recreational narcotics, etc etc)are hamstringing them
 

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This isn't true. But if that's how you see things, that's how they will be. There are a million other things you can say to a woman that aren't creepy, but there are as many excuses not to bother.
Do you really think a cold approach that starts with asking for directions, is going to go somewhere? What are you going to do after she gives you the directions or says she doesn't know where xyz is? Unless she really likes you (ie in which case you would have got clear IOIs and green-lights before you did that and then she'll likely take over from there, etc...) it's really a waste of time. So anyone can approach a girl or talk to her or run game. It doesn't mean she's going to be interested in you.
 

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You're right that we're prone to being too direct too early.

Unfortunately (which you touched upon), we're also prone to overcorrecting in the opposite direction.

I myself was too direct in my younger days, then ended up becoming the type of overcorrecter I just mentioned as I've gotten older.

All in all, we have a hard time finding the happy medium.
Nice! Now you know what to do when you go back to those speed dating events or when you're talking to a woman you're interested in. Just find that happy medium.
 

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Interesting. 2012 was also the best year I had romantically. Dealt with a girl I met online for the greater part of the year, and I really liked her, and went allot of places together with her and spent ALLOT of time together. But, over 12 years ago for both of us right? While I got married in 2014, I still remember 2012 as one of the best years of the last decade.
Interesting how 2012 was the best year for both of us (and surprising, seeing as we were in totally different stages of life)

I have some ideas of why 2012 was such a good year for me.

I was in college.

I was 20-21 (which meant I had aged out of the unfortunate position @SW15 has mentioned on the forum, where 18-19 year old college males are largely viewed as too young, except for maybe freshman girls)

Craigslist still allowed you to post ads looking for casual sex (that's how I nailed 5 of my 6 partners in 2012)

I also went on dates with a decent amount of broads in 2012 (some from Craigslist, some from other online methods, one from meeting organically in real life)

2015 was my best year in terms of continuous free sex with the same woman (I had free sex with the same woman 6 times in 2015, a record for me). I'd be reluctant to say 2015 was my best year sexually, however, as I only had free sex with 2 partners in 2015)
 

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Amazing the extent some posters twist logic to slag the OP. Almost like they're looking for someone to beat down and lack the impulse control for restraint.

There's always kicking stuffed animals if the urge can't be controlled, just sayin'
I'm gonna choke when it really counts
I'm gonna get kicked when I'm down

(Those lines from the song If I Surrender by The Color Fred totally describe my dating/sex life)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Feel free to edit your original post with this "friend link" that bypasses the paywall:

Thanks for posting my Medium article!
I'm pretty sure it's too late to edit my OP (unfortunately).

That being said, I'm glad you shared the full article with me. I read the whole thing. How awesome that you're the author. I never would have guessed the author belonged to this very forum.

I must ask: What are your thoughts on the comments (in the comment section of the article) that point out the fact Medium hosts a lot of articles written by feminists who tell us to never approach a woman?
 

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The thing is, even in the age of smartphones you can easily ask if they're locals and do they know a good restaurant nearby or which café might have the best coffee or is there a vintage shop nearby or... Only socially awkward nerds trust google to advise them.
One time when I was outside on break at work, a beautiful woman (she seriously looked like one of those models in mail order bride catalogues) asked me for directions to a cafe in my office complex. I gave her directions (and this is a different beautiful woman than the one from the directions story I shared on a recent post)

What a shame I was on the work premises. Even if I technically wasn't working at the moment (as I was on break), I was still sort of on-the-job. So it wouldn't have been appropriate to shoot my shot on her.
 

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Nice! Now you know what to do when you go back to those speed dating events or when you're talking to a woman you're interested in. Just find that happy medium.
Easier said than done.

I don't even know what the happy medium entails. All I know is that it exists (and I have a hard time finding it)
 

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Too many people have no idea that you often learn more from your failures than your successes.
Yeah, and too many folks don't recognize that "success" and "failure" are little more than labels we put on events, rather than indirect ways of saying what we REALLY mean: "In (insert situation), I didn't get exactly what I would've preferred"

Getting specific allows us to ask questions like: "Was what I desired especially practical to begin with? If so, what tactics and strategies can I employ next time around, in order to increase the liklihood of getting my needs and desires met?"
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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