Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
With great respect to Rollo(Who seems like a decent, well-meaning guy), Red Pill Theology is eerily similar to what happened betweenWhat do you think of Rollo Tomassi's book "The Rational Male - The Player's Handbook"? Is it a good choice for a beginner in the game?
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"Recent" in this case having been redefined to mean: "He hasn't been dating or the like for over 20 years"...Rollo Tomassi himself has been married since 1996. He hasn't been much of an approacher in recent years.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
It's OK to not blindly go along with every encyclical issued by Tommasi and all his fellow (Self-described)Red Pillers. You won't go straight to hell for daring to be skeptical and ask questions, I promiseHave you actually read The Red Pill or are you another one of those who hates things they refuse to understand?
The most common critique of Tomassi is the long marriage. While it's good for him that he's been married nearly 28 years, it does limit his direct experience.It's OK to not blindly go along with every encyclical issued by Tommasi and all his fellow (Self-described)Red Pillers.
The Red Pill is similar to Freudian psychoanalysis and psychodyamic therapy. High on theory, while low on applicabilityThe most common critique of Tomassi is the long marriage. While it's good for him that he's been married nearly 28 years, it does limit his direct experience.
Doesn't that validate a lot of what his says in his books? he has been able to maintain that relationship BECAUSE he knows the game.The most common critique of Tomassi is the long marriage. While it's good for him that he's been married nearly 28 years, it does limit his direct experience.
That's one possibility. Also possible:he has been able to maintain that relationship BECAUSE he knows the game.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Now i'm over here wondering which current red pill YouTubers are secretly sosuavers.The guy is a moderator from SoSuave, why are we pretending like his insights are even his own? He just took what was going on here, removed all the stupidity running amok on the team and created a successful business out of it.
NONE of this "Red Pill Knowledge" is anything new. In the not too distant past, we were discussing these things like regular human beings, instead of trying to sound like opaque, self-important academics. Note the dates on which all of the following were written or recordedNow i'm over here wondering which current red pill YouTubers are secretly sosuavers.
It's nice to read, but if you aren't familiar with his concepts or RP in general, I'd recommend starting with his first Rational Male book.What do you think of Rollo Tomassi's book "The Rational Male - The Player's Handbook"? Is it a good choice for a beginner in the game?
The most common critique of Tomassi is the long marriage. While it's good for him that he's been married nearly 28 years, it does limit his direct experience.
It might validate it. It's worth a conversation. His knowledge of red pill principles has probably helped him retain that relationship. Without his knowledge of red pill, it's more likely that he would have been some beta in a marriage with a diminishing volume that ended after 10-15 years. If he's gone 25+ years with a better than average quality marriage, then that's a good indicator for him. @Barrister made a point a long time ago that relationship longevity should not be considered an indicator of relationship quality.Doesn't that validate a lot of what his says in his books? he has been able to maintain that relationship BECAUSE he knows the game.
Yes and no.The most common critique of Tomassi is the long marriage. While it's good for him that he's been married nearly 28 years, it does limit his direct experience.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I hate your side because it's not my side.
Believe I've written elsewhere on this forum that I've read The Rational Male, and find some of Tomassi's assertions to be no less irrational and juvenile than much of what we encounter in Intersectionalist TheoryIf we're discussing, why aren't you answering questions?
Most of it thanks to individuals like Andrew Tate and Fresh n Fit. unfortunately...I started attending this forum 12 years ago with my previous profile (same avatar diff name) and I would have never imagine that the red pill and certain individual connected to this field would get so much attention and influence online.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.