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I am tired of blackpillers and anti-self improvement guys on here

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So then that leaves us with field reports, really. Not much else. But again, i'm not sure what the point is. I used to post lots of field reports and lay reports on this forum and a few others. But at one point I basically stopped writing them because it just felt like bragging. About something that wasn't in my control or a 'skill' and nothing I could teach anyone. A lay report is essentially saying 'I opened a girl who thought I was hot and so of course we ended up having sex'. It's like 'who cares?' lol. Anyone else in my body in that situation would also score with her. So I just stopped writing them
I think field reports and lay reports can be good things but I see your point on them. @Jesse Pinkman has done well writing field reports in recent times and @nicksaiz65 has done some field reports during the time I've been on the forum.

There's basically not a great deal to talk about is my point. It's not like we're still living in the mysterymethod days where we have a community of people who believe you can use 'game' (lines and techniques and stuff) to get any girl you want into bed with endless discussion about lines and techniques and theories that ugly old men can use to bang teenage models lol. And so we're not left with much else, and so general women talk and lifestyle and chat and some blackpill stuff is probably just the natural course
A lot of people who have read stuff like Mystery Method or Roosh end up failing to implement it well into their own lives. The guys who read Mystery Method, Roosh, or other pickup stuff read it, absorb it, try to practice it, experience harsh blowouts or get ignored in approach sessions, and end up quitting it.

I know a guy who read both Mystery Method and Bang prior to 2011. He got into an LTR in a blue pill way via social circle and ended up violating Iron Rule of Tomassi #3 big time. He had a long wait for sex from it but there's an argument that can be made that he got multiple years of sex from waiting it out initially.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

yeah, I can't seem to find the exact article, but I very clearly remember roosh (who by the way I have NO idea why people think he was some sort of successful womaniser!) made it quite clear that his opinion over the years had changed to 'game' being something to 'help you not completely screw up when you open a girl who likes how you look' (paraphrasing)
Roosh pointed out in 2018 that people learning Game at that point in time were more likely to fail than the early to mid 2000s.

 

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It's hard work, can't expect everyone to swallow the RP.. Took me 3 years. Majority of BP guys just going through a stage. We've all been there, I was there for a good 6-12 months.

Once I truly internalized the red pill, which could only be done via real life experience.. I never looked back. Amused mastery now, x-ray vision.

Keep fighting fellas, it gets a lot better once you "just get it"
 

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I think the point op is getting at isn't necessarily the blackpill in it of itself, but more so the effect it has and the mindsets that entail

Most guys that are blackpilled tend to perpetuate defeatist attitudes and instead of looking at things in a positive or optimistic light they view everything negatively and are extremely nihilistic. It is a damaging mindset to have and one best to be avoided. I stumbled upon it when I was a young teen and it really warped my world view and with time and application of myself I overcame the negative mental schema and realized how self limiting the whole thing is and how often times it is entirely inaccurate. I only did this by reflecting and putting myself out there, something most black pill guys NEVER do. They do not apply themselves and they are not accountable. Look at this thread, it speaks for itself. The defeatist come out of the wood work

As previously mentioned the black pill does indeed get some things right, but it isn't so black and while.

Most black pill guys are angry, they hate women, they hate the men that get women, they place blame on everything but themselves. Remember the blackpill rehtoric was born on puahate/sluthate and similar forums in years past. I won't get on my soap box and claim that looks don't matter because they absolutely do but the mindset of nearly every blackpill person is toxic and they lack nuance and life experience. They don't realize most of their problems are in their head and they suffer more in thought.

The blackpill pulls others down and does not a EVER bring men up.

They tear each other down in their own self deprecation, They come up with all sorts of theories as to why they fail with women yet most do not try overcome themselves in any way. The blackpill view is "why bother" because some extraneous outside factor dictates whether or not you get laid which is just wrong. They do not encourage men to improve, they take their own limited experiences and outwardly express their confirmation biases and hop aboard this negative group think. The only thing they advocate for is to get surgeries and fix every little minor detail of their body because they are sick in the head

This board is more than just about picking up chicks.

It is a place for men to speak more freely. To express themselves in a way they rarely can in real life. A place for men to seek advice. A place for men to learn about themselves. A place for guys to learn where they fall short and where they succeed. A place for men to improve.
Most blackpillers oppose ALL of these things.

I find it best to take whatever knowledge you see fit and apply as needed regardless of any 'pill'
 

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This forum is becoming more and more blackpill. People are using the terms normie, chadlite, and chad seriously. I sense a large amount of apathy and disillusionment in the people who use these terms. They feel that they are confined to a certain league, defined by their looks, and are condemned to stay there. Approaching becomes pointless because no girls will respond.

This mentality was not in the PUA community in its heyday. When you read Roosh, Strauss, and especially Pook, you feel excited. You hear cool stories and you get pumped to try the tactics yourself. You may have once sucked with women, but writers like those above give you a spark to take action and approach. They remind you that you will fail, but that eventually — sometime — you will succeed.

It is from this inspiration that I began my PUA journey. I was excited — though very nervous — to learn how to get girls. These guys told me how to approach. They gave me a plan for action. I came into college and started applying. I failed a ton, and didn’t work up enough confidence to approach time after time, but I had a goal in my mind so I kept going.

These OG PUA guys weren’t against improving your looks. No, not at all. Pook’s article on gaining muscle mass inspired me to lift:

But they didn’t tell me that I couldn’t approach if I didn’t have X muscles, Y veins, and Z height. There were no thresholds, no requirements. I just had to put the work in and eventually I would succeed. Yes, I had to improve myself as a man, but that was what I should be doing for myself anyways. I didn’t have to rate myself out of 10 every time I go out to “match” myself with an equal rating girl. Who wants to do that?

The above PUA authors helped me out greatly. I am having a blast at my college. I have two plates I bang every week now and not a year ago I hadn’t even kissed a girl. I’ve gained a good 40 pounds of muscle mass and can now bench 300 lbs max.

One of my biggest inspirations was these PUA guys, especially Pook. They have an excitement in their writing that makes you want to emulate them. It gives you a drive to see other guys’ success. You want to be like them. So you set to work, improve yourself and overcome your fears.

I just don’t see this enthusiastic mindset here much. There is much more complaining about the state of women in general, with the subtext being they are not even worth approaching anymore. Nothing is worth it, so the mentality goes.

Screw that. I don’t like this blackpill trend. Literally 99/100 guys aren’t approaching at all. They have no idea what their potential is. They don’t even know how to talk to girls, because they haven’t. I want these men to find sparks of inspiration, not endless moaning and groaning.

I tell some of my college friends my adventures with women, and they’re always amazed. Not many people do this stuff — and other guys think it’s pretty inspiring and cool. Why drive them off by being blackpill and against any sort of improvement? Instead drive them forward, to greener pastures!

I hope this blackpill trend changes and we can inspire more men through this forum.
What blackpillers? I haven't seen very .any
 

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Agree, don't let the helpless guys here distract from us that are making positive moves
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Agree, don't let the helpless guys here distract from us that are making positive moves
But is it really a positive move for you though? Are you are really comfortable with this or are you struggling? Dont waste your freedom with worldly things but set your affection on things above. We should be looking up not down. All things may be allowed, but not everything is profitable or leading towards spiritual maturity.
 

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But is it really a positive move for you though? Are you are really comfortable with this or are you struggling? Dont waste your freedom with worldly things but set your affection on things above. We should be looking up not down. All things may be allowed, but not everything is profitable or leading towards spiritual maturity.
I submit to the Most High, I'm set apart and don't covert worldly things. I also smash on date 1 or 2, so I can't really relate to most men complaining here. We are all built differently, I try to give advice, and I tell you guys my ups and downs, but ultimately when it comes to women I don't really need help. I think back to Solomon and David in that regard, I use this forum for other reasons. My life, my very being, has gotten significantly better since I started observing the 7th day sabbath and Hebrew holidays. Does that conflict with me running through girls? Yes, but I'm trying to be better. The only commandment of the 10 I'm struggling with.
 

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Peak PUA was about how you could get the results you wanted despite the handicaps you had. I do miss those days. Unfortunately, I don’t see a path forward since most in the space are “it is what it is” rather than “here’s how you can do it”. I keep coming here tho on the off chance someone will one day have that magical wisdom
 

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I think it would be helpful to create one or more sub-forums.

Give the Black Pillers their own designated space. If they get off on their perspective then let them do that with each other, outside the main forum threads. Let the distinction in perspectives be made more clear that way. And allow mods to move posts there. In the process I think it might help some of the black pillers to see how far their perspectives have shifted. For the well known Black Pillers who consciously expect to always identify as Black Pill, then they’d have a designated space to spout their black pill thoughts to themselves or anyone who is curious to go see.

I think moving Black Pill content off the main threads would allow the positive influence of SS to resurface and hopefully expand again.

On a different note, I also think a trying out a distinct sub-forum for Red Pill Men in LTR’s, could create a positive space, for more discussions and support, for the many men here who have chosen to LTR and even get married. There are many here. I imagine there would be more shared in the topic, if there was welcome space to do so, that is more separate from those always seeking to get and spin more plates.

And then maybe a subform for the few MGTOW’s that are consciously choosing that as their personal lifestyle moving forward.

All Possibilities…

At the very least, imho please at least redirect the Black Pill content off the main threads and into a sub-forum, if need be, so the main sub-forums and threads can become an encouraging place for SS men again.
To better comply with the female imperative?
 

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Peak PUA was about how you could get the results you wanted despite the handicaps you had. I do miss those days. Unfortunately, I don’t see a path forward since most in the space are “it is what it is” rather than “here’s how you can do it”. I keep coming here tho on the off chance someone will one day have that magical wisdom
How about both? Dating sucks but it would be better if you worked on your personality.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I submit to the Most High, I'm set apart and don't covert worldly things. I also smash on date 1 or 2, so I can't really relate to most men complaining here. We are all built differently, I try to give advice, and I tell you guys my ups and downs, but ultimately when it comes to women I don't really need help. I think back to Solomon and David in that regard, I use this forum for other reasons. My life, my very being, has gotten significantly better since I started observing the 7th day sabbath and Hebrew holidays. Does that conflict with me running through girls? Yes, but I'm trying to be better. The only commandment of the 10 I'm struggling with.
And how in the hell do you know the creator of the universe is the same entity(ies) parading around in the bible and cantankerously barking out orders?

How do you know "God" isn't some whited-skinned humanoid extraterrestrial assh0le attempting to use us as a slave species?

How, Murk?
 

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The problem with working on your personality is it comes across as fake and women can sense it
Fake it till you make it, man. At first, you won't be congruent, but sometimes the tips people give you will work. Then once you get success, you will become naturally more confident, as that confidence will be grounded upon actual victories. From there it just becomes "you". There is no problem with improving your personality. You always have to start somewhere.
 

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Fake it till you make it, man. At first, you won't be congruent, but sometimes the tips people give you will work. Then once you get success, you will become naturally more confident, as that confidence will be grounded upon actual victories. From there it just becomes "you". There is no problem with improving your personality. You always have to start somewhere.
Not true. I’m not new to game and I tried for many years to fake it till I made it. Was a virgin till I said “fvck that” and was myself
 

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Peak PUA was about how you could get the results you wanted despite the handicaps you had. I do miss those days. I keep coming here tho on the off chance someone will one day have that magical wisdom
That 'wisdom' is already out there in the form of the old material.
Not that it actually worked as sold, of course. If it did, people wouldn't be 'still looking for the magical wisdom'
You see the contradiction?
Everyone has read and tested mysterymethod and NLP and everything else, yet all still looking for the next thing.
There is no magic bullet. You improve what you can and you approach lots of girls and you bang the ones who like you back. You can't make her like you, i'm afraid. Not with all the 'game' in the world
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Fake it till you make it, man. At first, you won't be congruent, but sometimes the tips people give you will work. Then once you get success, you will become naturally more confident, as that confidence will be grounded upon actual victories. From there it just becomes "you". There is no problem with improving your personality. You always have to start somewhere.
That's not true at all and if anything will make things worse.

The only thing a man should be trying to change is if he has really poor social skills or something like very odd body language, stuff like excessive or low/no eye contact, odd mannerisms, etc. This is definitely a very real issue for some men, particularly those who are legitimately on the spectrum on some level. A lot of men in the engineering and hard science fields (physics, chemistry, etc.) would honestly be in this category. Something else I think of is having poor social interactions with the opposite sex, this is often a result of just being inexperienced. This could be something like being too pushy or aggressive, having a sense of humor that women don't really understand, etc.

Now, trying to actually change your personality will just make you come across as fake. Men that are highly extroverted, life of the party types don't act that way intentionally, it's just their nature. A man that is naturally more introverted who tries to put on an act like this is going to come across as awkward or strange to others. They may not be able to pick up on specifically what it is, but his behavior will feel off to them. This is where recognizing what type of social interactions work for you and those that don't. An introvert like this would not do good at a club, bar or party type environment.
 
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That's not true at all and if anything will make things worse.

The only thing a man should be trying to change is if he has really poor social skills or something like very odd body language, stuff like excessive or low/no eye contact, odd mannerisms, etc. This is definitely a very real issue for some men, particularly those who are legitimately on the spectrum on some level. A lot of men in the engineering and hard science fields (physics, chemistry, etc.) would honestly be in this category. Something else I think of is having poor social interactions with the opposite sex, this is often a result of just being inexperienced. This could be something like being too pushy or aggressive, having a sense of humor that women don't really understand, etc.

Now, trying to actually change your personality will just make you come across as fake. Men that are highly extroverted, life of the party types don't act that way intentionally, it's just their nature. A man that is naturally more introverted who tries to put on an act like this is going to come across as awkward or strange to others. They may not be able to pick up on specifically what it is, but his behavior will feel off to them. This is where recognizing what type of social interactions work for you and those that don't. An introvert like this would not do good at a club, bar or party type environment.
Something that I want to add to this is that men that are introverted doesn't mean they are shy and vice versa. I like my down time more than most, but I always thought I was very introverted and socially awkward. Nope! turns out everyone who knows me when I'm in a good mood as the 'life of the party guy' and act very extroverted. Which surprised me.

In my readings studying self image I learned that very few people actually have a good understanding about how they are perceived externally. I always thought I was the weird looking awkward kid with not much to offer. It wasn't until I put myself out there more and realized I am the literal opposite of that. My self image was wrong and most blackpill/incell culture types have poor self image.
The work Maxwell Maltz is a good read for that

I think 'act as if' has its merit when you are applying yourself in a way you aspire to be and it is a method often taught in cognitive behavioral therapy in an attempt to get one to improve and aim towards self actualization. There is a fine line between genuineness and acting though. It can help kickstart someone in the right direction, but it is best to be yourself.... BUT you need to be the best fully realized version of yourself that is socially calibrated. If who you really are is a lame socially odd out of shape dude then those are things you can improve and fix to become the better version of you.


I still identify as an introvert, but I realized the difference between shyness/anxiety and not true introversion. A introverted guy can still be the life of the party and he can change.
 

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That 'wisdom' is already out there in the form of the old material.
Not that it actually worked as sold, of course. If it did, people wouldn't be 'still looking for the magical wisdom'
You see the contradiction?
Everyone has read and tested mysterymethod and NLP and everything else, yet all still looking for the next thing.
There is no magic bullet. You improve what you can and you approach lots of girls and you bang the ones who like you back. You can't make her like you, i'm afraid. Not with all the 'game' in the world
There definitely are some magic bullets. Claiming there aren’t is misleading tbh. What’s your alternative? Just resign to what fate decided your place will be? That doesn’t work for me
 

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Not true. I’m not new to game and I tried for many years to fake it till I made it. Was a virgin till I said “fvck that” and was myself
Evolution and change are different things. You want to be you, but evolving into your actualized self

When I was a 5 y/o kid, I decided I was going to be "me" and pick my nose in public. I've since stopped.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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