sangheilios
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There's definitely a lot of truth to this.That is not the biggest issue.
The biggest issue is the sexual revolution. Hot women sleep with the top Alpha Men when they are the most attractive and most fertile in their 20s, and they brutally reject ALL other men. Then when the women are less attractive and less fertile in their 30s, they want the guys who are in their 30s who they rejected in their 20s.
That is the BIGGEST issue.
The problem is you believe men and women think alike and are attracted to the same things. Women don't have to put in 5% of the work men do. Generally, as long as the woman is not overweight, has long hair, no kids, and pre-menopause, and man will either sleep with her or have a relationship with her. It doesn't work the other around. For an average women to have sex with or be in a relationship with a man, she wants alot alot more, and its her preogorative.
You keep mentioning guys want Victoria Secrets models when they are nothing themselves. They don't. Most average guys just want a nice average girl they can get along with and be intimate with, who won't destroy them financially, or abuse them emotionally.
In 2023, most guys have to be SUPERMAN to get an average girl, while most girls who are average can easily get SUPERMAN guy.
Very few men legitimately will only go for super hot women well beyond their actual level, this does happen but it's fairly rare. Most men would be totally fine going for their looks match or even dating down, sometimes by quite a bit. In fact, there are many men who have virtually no standards at all. Very unattractive women will have options, if a woman is chronically single or struggles to land men for a relationship there is something wrong with HER. Most guys are willing to put up with a lot if there is a chance at a relationship, this will vary depending upon the overall desperation of the man and/or the degree of attraction he has towards the woman in question.
The dating market is also substantially different now than it was for men of generations past. Many baby boomer men that ended up getting married and having children would quite literally be incels in today's world. The expectations that men need to live up to are far loftier now than what they went through. Back then, if you were a normal guy that had a job you could land a woman that was roughly your looks match. There are tons of men in this "average and normal" category that struggle in the dating world. Yes, some of this could be due to poor "game" or life circumstances but it's also heavily due to the standards women have and the overall dating market.
I use myself as an example. I've said this a million times, but I'm 6'4" and 235-240 and one of the fittest guys at any gym I'll go to naturally. I'm easily in the top 5% of men, for my actual age it's even more unusual. Anyway, I've had women tell me I have a "dad bod" or criticize my appearance. I've been rejected by average women many times and had no success on dating apps or sites. The vast majority of men are not 6'+ or in really good shape, so what does this say about the overall dating market as a whole and how women often view men? Are all women like this, absolutely not, but enough of them are where it's both directly and indirectly an issue. Lets' say 25% of women have this mindset, this renders even more men incapable of finding a match and the normal women that are available are either locked up or become entitled due to the sheer amount of desperation from men that have gone months or years with no success.
We can debate this all day long, but this is the reality of the modern dating market. I really think the only thing to do is accept it for what it is and learn how to navigate it to the best of your ability. I believe that the market is hyper competitive and that you need to have a lot going for you to have success, or at the very least pretend that you do lol. This could involve being on point with fitness, finances, etc. but there is only so much you can realistcally achieve here. I also beleive that it may be better for men to simply check out all together or just put very little thought into the dating market and just living life. I actually see this latter option becoming more and more the norm.