“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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What would you rather do?

Who would you rather be?

  • Be an abstinent with standards

    Votes: 6 30.0%
  • Hire escorts

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Lower your standards

    Votes: 8 40.0%
  • Watch onlyfans

    Votes: 2 10.0%

  • Total voters
    20

Plinco

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If you are not getting the girl you want, who would you rather be? This is assuming that you are improving yourself but still have not gotten to where you are at.

Recent threads and responses made me a bit curious. Personally I'd rather be an incel with standards. I think the other options are demoralizing, but I'd like to see what other poster's takes are on this question.
 
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Hit the gym
Travel… seed it before hand through OLD but don’t make promises. Worst case scenario you have great photo ops and stories that will make you seem more interesting.

There’s no such thing as an incel with standards. An incel is INVOLUNTARILY celibate. Can’t get laid no matter what. If you’re turning down trim because of standards, you’re voluntarily celibate.
 

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There’s no such thing as an incel with standards. An incel is INVOLUNTARILY celibate. Can’t get laid no matter what. If you’re turning down trim because of standards, you’re voluntarily celibate.
The standards he is referring to is other options that he listed, not other civvie women.
 

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As I had subbed to OF (in the recent past, but not sure if I will continue on it), I guess I have to put that up.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

Plinco

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None of the above. I would continue to work on myself until I got the kind of girls I wanted. And that is exactly what I did and I succeeded. The best part is that the benefits of that work don't just impact your romantic life, they impact all of your life.
Hit the gym
Travel… seed it before hand through OLD but don’t make promises. Worst case scenario you have great photo ops and stories that will make you seem more interesting.

There’s no such thing as an incel with standards. An incel is INVOLUNTARILY celibate. Can’t get laid no matter what. If you’re turning down trim because of standards, you’re voluntarily celibate.
E. None of the above
Let me clarify what I'm asking.

Assuming that you are making the best out of yourself, as in you keep bettering your best and you are not currently where you are at, would you think it's better to lower your standards, hire escorts, subscribe to onlyfans, or keep your standards and not engage in sexual activity.

@threeforfree
I think you're making a good point that the term incel is not the best use of the word. I think a better word is abstinent.
 

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None of the above. I would continue to work on myself until I got the kind of girls I wanted. And that is exactly what I did and I succeeded. The best part is that the benefits of that work don't just impact your romantic life, they impact all of your life.
This.
 

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Incel with standards? Meaning you wouldn't be an incel, just a regular voluntary celibate because no woman is good enough. If you can have sex with a woman, but CHOOSE not to because of standards then the celibacy isn't involuntary.

So an incel with standards is someone who has some practically irrelevant standards and couldn't get laid no matter how much they lowered their standards. So essentially just a cope to feel better about being absolutely useless with women anyways.

The idea of an incel with standards is laughable either way...

Edit: Incel was corrected to abstinent, but I'll let this post stand as a separate point anyways.
 
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Maybe the only benefit of lowering your standards is experiencing why you intended to have higher standards. Having done so, I can say that it’s a really disgusting, demoralizing feeling and it may help scare you back on track.
 

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There’s no such thing as an incel with standards. An incel is INVOLUNTARILY celibate. Can’t get laid no matter what. If you’re turning down trim because of standards, you’re voluntarily celibate.
l would agree, so that means there is no such thing as an “incel”

”Incel” EQUALS I want to have sex with hot young fertile women who are sexy.
“Incel” DOES NOT EQUAL I can have sex with menopausal slightly overweight single mothers in their 40s, but I won’t.

Everything is about the FERTILENESS and the SEXINESS of the girl.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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correction:

An incel strikes out period, SMV of their target is irrelevant. It is, after all, involuntary.

l would agree, so that means there is no such thing as an “incel”

”Incel” EQUALS I want to have sex with hot young fertile women who are sexy.
“Incel” DOES NOT EQUAL I can have sex with menopausal slightly overweight single mothers in their 40s, but I won’t.

Everything is about the FERTILENESS and the SEXINESS of the girl.
 

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Interesting that just getting better is not included there.None of those options are palatable for me.
 

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Let me clarify what I'm asking.

Assuming that you are making the best out of yourself, as in you keep bettering your best and you are not currently where you are at, would you think it's better to lower your standards, hire escorts, subscribe to onlyfans, or keep your standards and not engage in sexual activity.

@threeforfree
I think you're making a good point that the term incel is not the best use of the word. I think a better word is abstinent.
Interesting that just getting better is not included there.None of those options are palatable for me.
l would agree, so that means there is no such thing as an “incel”

”Incel” EQUALS I want to have sex with hot young fertile women who are sexy.
“Incel” DOES NOT EQUAL I can have sex with menopausal slightly overweight single mothers in their 40s, but I won’t.

Everything is about the FERTILENESS and the SEXINESS of the girl.
Incel with standards? Meaning you wouldn't be an incel, just a regular voluntary celibate because no woman is good enough. If you can have sex with a woman, but CHOOSE not to because of standards then the celibacy isn't involuntary.

So an incel with standards is someone who has some practically irrelevant standards and couldn't get laid no matter how much they lowered their standards. So essentially just a cope to feel better about being absolutely useless with women anyways.

The idea of an incel with standards is laughable either way...
Guys, I used the wrong language on option #1 If you would have read the thread you would have saw this. In fact, I think it's better for the mods to delete this thread so I can make a new thread and use the proper language. I don't intent to make myself an @ss here
 

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Guys, I used the wrong language on option #1 If you would have read the thread you would have saw this. In fact, I think it's better for the mods to delete this thread so I can make a new thread and use the proper language. I don't intent to make myself an @ss here
Never done this before but looks like I can edit the wording of #1 for you. Let me know what you want it to say and I’ll try it.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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