"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Let me preface that being with an older woman (10+ years) is always something I wanted to try once.

3 weeks ago, I met this quite attractive lady sitting next to me on the plane. We chatted about financial freedom, which really got me interested. Once we deplaned, she asked for my number and we chatted back and forth during the couple of days after. We agreed to meet up sometime, but I haven't reached out to her since.

What I'd like to know if any of you mature men can provide some pointers on how to game these women (not just specifically this one.)
Inb4 someone comments 'Lol these women require no game'
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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You definitely have to be charming but not gamey. Confident but not arrogant.

This woman is my age. She knows the score. Consider your time together on the plane to be equivalent to a coffee date. Operate as if this is Date 2. For me that could be dinner at my place and a commensurate level of escalation. My experience with women in their 40's is that they cut through the BS, while still being discrete. Any evening activity that can use your home for a Start/End point is good. We are going into Standard time so there will be early sunsets. A bottle of wine watching the sunset before you fix dinner together is a good activity. A weekend option could be some outdoor exertion, like hike or run, then shower at your house before going to some open ended event.

You didn't mention how close she lives but if she has to travel to you or vice versa, "spending the night" implication will ratchet up the expectation of sex, and I think it is good to be rather upfront about it without being crass. I found that in that case, that immediate physical Kino , kisses and hugging set the tone. 40 yo+ women have been some of the highest sex drive women I've encountered. If you can slip some innuendo into the conversation and she plays along, that's a good sign.

Above all be passionate about what you do. Don't tolerate some boring conversation about something she thinks is a safe topic. Prompt her to tell you about things that excite her , and make her feel alive. That's the one thing about an experienced woman....she has been through the BS, and she doesn't need any more of it. Be stimulating in your conversation. Make her FEEL alive,and vibrant and excited to be with you. Offer her the opportunity to experience new things and step out of her comfort zone. Be the one to open those new opportunities to her that she may have missed out on. Be unique and exciting. That is the thing most middle aged women are missing...
 

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Let me preface that being with an older woman (10+ years) is always something I wanted to try once.

3 weeks ago, I met this quite attractive lady sitting next to me on the plane. We chatted about financial freedom, which really got me interested. Once we deplaned, she asked for my number and we chatted back and forth during the couple of days after. We agreed to meet up sometime, but I haven't reached out to her since.

What I'd like to know if any of you mature men can provide some pointers on how to game these women (not just specifically this one.)
Inb4 someone comments 'Lol these women require no game'
What about Financial freedom did you discuss about? Her giving you her number does not necessarily mean she was sexually attracted, the reason I ask is because it could be an MLM person trying to get you in their business.

If that is not the case, and it is just a random convo then older women prefer men that are direct and to the point aka assertive. So when you do hit her up, I'd suggest asap to keep the momentum going and be clear with your intentions. Dinner at your place should be direct enough.

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Be a mix of serious and funny. If you are younger than her then I would say go about 30% serious and 70% funny. She will be judging your maturity especially if you are younger. You want her to know for sure that you are not a loser sleeping in mom’s basement. But just like the younger women, you don’t want to be all serious or you will be boring to her. Older women still like to laugh and cut loose. If you are interested in her kiss her in the middle of the date. Don’t wait till the end.
 

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Be a mix of serious and funny. If you are younger than her then I would say go about 30% serious and 70% funny.
"Funny" is not the word I would use....Witty. charming, amused, confident, intelligent and social would be my mix. I have a perpetual bachelor friend whose great sense of humor diffuses all sexual tension and makes him an "entertaining friend".
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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We're within 5 miles of each other.

Let's do a sunset hike near [my area]
How's your schedule looking next week?

Do you work weekdays?
Do you have time to have lunch somewhere?
Thank you so much for the hiking offer


Hmmm...My thought is to reject and grab drinks. Playing with house money right now

My follow up-
That's an excuse for people to talk about business, not fun

Hahaha
It will be fun to have a lunch with you :)
 
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We're within 5 miles of each other.

Let's do a sunset hike near [my area]
How's your schedule looking next week?

Do you work weekdays?
Do you have time to have lunch somewhere?
Thank you so much for the hiking offer


Hmmm...My thought is to reject and grab drinks. Playing with house money right now

My follow up-
That's an excuse for people to talk about business, not fun

Good follow up. She's testing the waters for betaism with her responses. I'd sweeten the hiking offer with drinks afterwards someplace casual and stick to it. She may need more small talk to be comfortable. A subtle innuendo or two wouldn't hurt. As Rocky said above (quoted below) be a stimulating conversationalist and see if she can warm up a bit.

You definitely have to be charming but not gamey. Confident but not arrogant.

Above all be passionate about what you do. Don't tolerate some boring conversation about something she thinks is a safe topic. Prompt her to tell you about things that excite her , and make her feel alive. That's the one thing about an experienced woman....she has been through the BS, and she doesn't need any more of it. Be stimulating in your conversation. Make her FEEL alive,and vibrant and excited to be with you. Offer her the opportunity to experience new things and step out of her comfort zone. Be the one to open those new opportunities to her that she may have missed out on. Be unique and exciting. That is the thing most middle aged women are missing...
If she tries to sh1t test you about her age, don't take the bait. Just say you're attracted to maturity, age is only a number, and game normally as you would a younger woman.
 
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Holy sh!t, super off topic

One of my plate's birthday was today, I was going to take her out for dinner Saturday.

What time do you come home so we can do a birthday shot?
I work from home today going to walk my dog, then shot time Thinking she was going to call or facetime after
(45 minutes later)
You taking [dog name] for a marathon?
6 Mile marathon
:rolleyes:
Dog didn't even walk a mile :eek: I finally found a silicone cupcake thing!! I will make brownie with whip cream on top
I'm not waiting anymore, I have a 6AM call tomorrow. Have a good night

She gave me a call, maybe some miscommunication since I was expecting a call from her. She is going to leave her place and drive 30 minutes to see me right now...on her birthday. I feel like an asshoIe, but sh!t I'm seeing her tonight. She has to go back and be at work 8AM tomorrow. Almost surreal right now, man. I bought a cosplay for her to wear on Saturday, but looks like it's going to happen tonight
 

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Don't feel like an ahole, you're taking her out to dinner Saturday night.
 

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"Funny" is not the word I would use....Witty. charming, amused, confident, intelligent and social would be my mix. I have a perpetual bachelor friend whose great sense of humor diffuses all sexual tension and makes him an "entertaining friend".
I see what you mean. I’ve heard of where a guy and the woman don’t have the same sense of humor so even though he is funny to 99 other people he isn’t to her, and that kills it. Humor is very very important to me and if a women doesn’t have the same humor style I do then she isn’t my type. It just won’t work .
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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