"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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If you've had sex 7 days in 2022, how many different women? I agree 7 days of sex isn't good but it isn't yet incel status. One year of no sex is incel status.
i think it was 4 women. I had a fwb for a couple hookups
 

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Why are you here then?
As I have said previously, I'm here to learn. I'm hoping for that one nugget of information
or an interesting outlook to make sense of why I feel this way without all the usual fluff
spouted on this site like it's universally correct information that applies to everybody.
It's the optimist in me.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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As I have said previously, I'm here to learn. I'm hoping for that one nugget of information
or an interesting outlook to make sense of why I feel this way without all the usual fluff
spouted on this site like it's universally correct information that applies to everybody.
It's the optimist in me.
I feel that actually. For myself, I didnt get results till I did my own thing and largely ignored and contradicted the common Wisdom found on these kinds of forums. Reality and what worked for me was much different
 

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When I came to this forum the last time, I was abundant with 5-6.5's and looking to up my game. Now I'm an incel that gets laid 7 times in a year. Wtf happened?
Hi bro. Sorry to hear about the drop in quantity. Like others have said, part of it is the market going downhill, part of it is your new job. My guess is that another part of it is that at some point, for some reason, you started giving off the wrong vibe to girls.

Try planning dates you would actually enjoy regardless of company. Enjoy the dates themselves. If sex does happen, sex should just be the cherry on top.

Good luck bro.
 

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Hi bro. Sorry to hear about the drop in quantity. Like others have said, part of it is the market going downhill, part of it is your new job. My guess is that another part of it is that at some point, for some reason, you started giving off the wrong vibe to girls.

Try planning dates you would actually enjoy regardless of company. Enjoy the dates themselves. If sex does happen, sex should just be the cherry on top.

Good luck bro.
I don’t like dates so incel it is :lol:
 

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Hmm what normally brings average up in a year is STRs. How long are these chicks hanging round?

BTW if you are in a relationship and getting laid 100 times a year pretty good. Woman is on rag and PM'S so pvssy dispenser playing up 50%. Add in other times when she s cracked out.

And at that frequency y would u care. Better things to do
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Damned autocorrect. Short Term Relationships. Basically try buy
Try buy? All these terms I don’t know.

yes they are short relatively. My last fwb was a few fvcks. The one before that same thing, one before that was a few months. Sometimes I hit it off other times I don’t but Usually have an abundance of the 5-6.5’s. Not this year
 

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The dirty secret here is if you want abundance of pvssy you have to spend a lot of time or have a lot of discipline and organised game. Maybe not worth it unless you are wanting a unicorn/keeper. Concentrate on career, investing hobbies.

Enjoy what comes your way when it comes. Keep yourself productively busy the rest of the time
 

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The dirty secret here is if you want abundance of pvssy you have to spend a lot of time or have a lot of discipline and organised game. Maybe not worth it unless you are wanting a unicorn/keeper. Concentrate on career, investing hobbies.

Enjoy what comes your way when it comes. Keep yourself productively busy the rest of the time
Yeah that’s my goal atm. It’s just annoying because in 2020 I was having so much sex, and the year before that wasn’t bad either. So many girls I felt like I couldn’t lose. And then this. Stupid powers that be throwing a wrench in my golden age
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I can relate to this. Getting women happens most naturally when you are in a flow state. Like they say you make money with money. Once broke it seems way harder to get that groove back.

That's why I didn't respond to the thread about how many women have you slept with. Because it doesn't matter. A man who slept with a 1000 women , will feel the same as ,and basically is, an incel after a dry spell of let's say a year. On the other hand , a 30 y.o virgin can study game and start slaying. It's all internal...you are only as get as your last victory.

I say I can relate ,because I slept with plenty of women, but I've always been a "lazy player". Women made it real easy for me, vs some dudes on this forum who can actually turn the switch on and off when they want. And that's the place where a man wants to be.
 

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I've always loved the concept of the matrix blue pill. Open this pandora box and it cannot be closed. Wouldn't you rather stay oblivious? Being blue for me meant looking for "the one" , the happily ever after Disney dream ect. I either liked a girl and fell in love , or I didn't liked her enough for the Disney dream and just broke her heart.

I can sometimes be jealous of guys who are completely bluepilled. I also won't start RP rhetoric like conversations just to convince them of my new believes. But now the dream about "the one" is dead, and getting older,I feel also less motivated to hunt.

At this point I gotta re learn how to hunt and how to this with a RP view, and without the useall "butterflies " and tingles. Seems less passionate.
 

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If u don't mind sharing. How old r u ?
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I can relate to this. Getting women happens most naturally when you are in a flow state. Like they say you make money with money. Once broke it seems way harder to get that groove back.

That's why I didn't respond to the thread about how many women have you slept with. Because it doesn't matter. A man who slept with a 1000 women , will feel the same as ,and basically is, an incel after a dry spell of let's say a year. On the other hand , a 30 y.o virgin can study game and start slaying. It's all internal...you are only as get as your last victory.

I say I can relate ,because I slept with plenty of women, but I've always been a "lazy player". Women made it real easy for me, vs some dudes on this forum who can actually turn the switch on and off when they want. And that's the place where a man wants to be.
yeah I feel now like I was just lucky but I do think I got some insight into what worked. This year it seems women are more looking for providers. I have the same pictures and everything on my dating profiles, even use the same openers yet they all putting a “oh I’m looking for dates” or “looking to enjoy activities and explore the city” bs posts I never got back in the day.


I've always loved the concept of the matrix blue pill. Open this pandora box and it cannot be closed. Wouldn't you rather stay oblivious? Being blue for me meant looking for "the one" , the happily ever after Disney dream ect. I either liked a girl and fell in love , or I didn't liked her enough for the Disney dream and just broke her heart.

I can sometimes be jealous of guys who are completely bluepilled. I also won't start RP rhetoric like conversations just to convince them of my new believes. But now the dream about "the one" is dead, and getting older,I feel also less motivated to hunt.

At this point I gotta re learn how to hunt and how to this with a RP view, and without the useall "butterflies " and tingles. Seems less passionate.
Not me, I love the red pill.
 

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yeah I feel now like I was just lucky but I do think I got some insight into what worked. This year it seems women are more looking for providers. I have the same pictures and everything on my dating profiles, even use the same openers yet they all putting a “oh I’m looking for dates” or “looking to enjoy activities and explore the city” bs posts I never got back in the day.



Not me, I love the red pill.
Loving the RP is a great place to be. Now you gotta try to capture the magic back.

Do you mainly use old to get dates?
 

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Loving the RP is a great place to be. Now you gotta try to capture the magic back.

Do you mainly use old to get dates?
totally agree! And yes only OLD. Believe it or not, when I first started pick up in 2012, I started with approaching. Must have done 200-400 women in a few years. Nothing. I stayed a virgin till I was 28 then I sort of figured out my own style and started online dating which was my key to success. I lost count of all the women I slept with. 2020 was the peak it seems
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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