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Adapt and Overcome

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Over the years I've noticed that whenever the powers that be do their social engineering, people would rather adapt and overcome than to directly oppose. People invest in markets to adapt to perpetual central bank inflation, men learn game and up their status to adapt and overcome the results of feminism and hypergamy, people found creative ways to make money during the pandemic, etc. I'm sure all of you have noticed that most of the trends are not our friends. We are adapting and overcoming problems that no one would have thought about 20 years ago; people didn't have to worry about their elementary school kids being taught about transgenderism back in the year 2000. Heck, back in the year 2000 society didn't look so great compared with 1990. What's happening is the elites are promoting and enforcing through special interests their social engineering and the public is adapting and overcoming it. The elites have been doing this slowly enough to not cause a significant backlash, ensuring the average normie's complicity.

There will come a time, when adapt and overcome will not work.
 

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Over the years I've noticed that whenever the powers that be do their social engineering, people would rather adapt and overcome than to directly oppose.
Most people are sheep and will like the rest of the herd be lead without questioning. Sadly and true.
It's easier for people to be passive inactive than actually take action.
 
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Let me ask you this... who are the 'elites'? Seriously who are they? I hear this term getting tossed out now and then but no one can give me a clear objective definition of who or what they are. This appears to be a catch all metaphor for people you don't agree with that somehow exerts control over society. This is BVLLSH1T.

Society develops culture: culture reflects society. People seem to think there is some effort to exert control over individuals this is nonsense. The ONLY way a society can exert control over a culture is to be willing to cut people's heads off if you don't go with the program.

Media reflects the culture as it changes... the media doesn't really control anything unless you happen to be willing to be influenced. @PowerQuest is correct, people are tribal and are more comfortable when they comport to a tribe, this is especially true for women. But in a modern free market economy, any culture can have sub-cultures, sub-cultures will always exist and go underground when they are repressed. Example, we have had a gay sub-culture since the dawn of man, efforts to suppress this only drives it underground... we don't have more gay people now, it's pretty much the same percentage, the only thing that has changed is societal acceptance.

Look... the human conflict with civilization has been ongoing since humans first discovered agriculture and animal domestication. This is illustrated in the Book of Genesis, with the conflict between Cain and Abel. It was a conflict between society types. Cain represented a culture that is tied to a place: Abel represented freedom... which God favored. But.... humans deviated from nature, opting for agricultural civilization needing dedicated land and use of domesticated animals to that effort... why did this prevail? Simple, agriculture provided a means for societal development and a society will ALWAYS prevail over individualism.

People often wonder why European culture dominated the world (complete with colonization). It had nothing to do with race or racial superiority, Europe just happened to located in a part of the world where mass production of agricultural product and the availability of animals suitable for domestication allowed for the development of civilization... in addition the geography of Europe allowed for the development of multiple cultures which improved with competition with each other. Competition always drives improvement.

We have been dealing with the conflict between individual freedom and a functional civilization for thousands of years. The more freedom humans have, the more unstable society becomes. It really is that simple. The ONLY way civilization works, with individual freedom, is when everyone is okay with what individuals do as long as it does not interfere with others individual freedom. This might be asking too much of human beings since there will always be conflict. Here in the USA, we have conservatives and progressives constantly at odds with each other, BOTH sides claim to be champions of individual freedom, but the truth is neither side gives a sh1t about individual freedom, both sides believe society should comport to their version of society. The side willing to exert their will by force will win, but the win will be temporary because no one can keep up violent repression forever.

Human nature wants freedom: society fights against this. And society always changes over time to comport with human nature until such time that the society becomes so unstable that it fails.

Anyway sorry for the rant... but like the OP said, individuals will always figure out a way to prevail, even if they have to go underground, form black markets and operate. If you don't think there are a lot of atheists in Saudi Arabia you are living in a dream world... they are there, they just go though societal motions, and pray three times a day facing Mecca all the while thinking "This is so fvcking stupid."
 
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Men in Saudi Arabia profit from the legacy from their ancestors, but I doubt they have a clue why their society is the way it is and why it's in some ways better than in western countries. They will lose their men-only zones and male energy in some decades.
Islam is not only a believe about a guy who preached and an entitity named god, it's law and structure of society, too. If you fall out of Islam, you fall out of society. As a man, you betray your own ancestors, and brothers. It's almost impossible for foreigners to become full state citizens, too. So to be a citizen actually means to have ancestors in the country.

Europe has lost this tribal way after rome and catholizism came. I mean cultures like the vikings. American has been like this, too, before everything was established and settled.

As long as there is no new "unexplored territory", men are just not needed that much. The hordes of men who are without any real task are contributing to the society with their passiveness just as much as the activist women (or men) do.
 

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Let me ask you this... who are the 'elites'? Seriously who are they? I hear this term getting tossed out now and then but no one can give me a clear objective definition of who or what they are. This appears to be a catch all metaphor for people you don't agree with that somehow exerts control over society. This is BVLLSH1T.
They are a broad group of people, who yes, exerts influence on society. The problem is not necessarily having elites, the problem is what some of them do.

Society develops culture: culture reflects society. People seem to think there is some effort to exert control over individuals this is nonsense. The ONLY way a society can exert control over a culture is to be willing to cut people's heads off if you don't go with the program.

Media reflects the culture as it changes... the media doesn't really control anything unless you happen to be willing to be influenced. @PowerQuest is correct, people are tribal and are more comfortable when they comport to a tribe, this is especially true for women. But in a modern free market economy, any culture can have sub-cultures, sub-cultures will always exist and go underground when they are repressed. Example, we have had a gay sub-culture since the dawn of man, efforts to suppress this only drives it underground... we don't have more gay people now, it's pretty much the same percentage, the only thing that has changed is societal acceptance.

Look... the human conflict with civilization has been ongoing since humans first discovered agriculture and animal domestication. This is illustrated in the Book of Genesis, with the conflict between Cain and Abel. It was a conflict between society types. Cain represented a culture that is tied to a place: Abel represented freedom... which God favored. But.... humans deviated from nature, opting for agricultural civilization needing dedicated land and use of domesticated animals to that effort... why did this prevail? Simple, agriculture provided a means for societal development and a society will ALWAYS prevail over individualism.

People often wonder why European culture dominated the world (complete with colonization). It had nothing to do with race or racial superiority, Europe just happened to located in a part of the world where mass production of agricultural product and the availability of animals suitable for domestication allowed for the development of civilization... in addition the geography of Europe allowed for the development of multiple cultures which improved with competition with each other. Competition always drives improvement.

We have been dealing with the conflict between individual freedom and a functional civilization for thousands of years. The more freedom humans have, the more unstable society becomes. It really is that simple. The ONLY way civilization works, with individual freedom, is when everyone is okay with what individuals do as long as it does not interfere with others individual freedom. This might be asking too much of human beings since there will always be conflict. Here in the USA, we have conservatives and progressives constantly at odds with each other, BOTH sides claim to be champions of individual freedom, but the truth is neither side gives a sh1t about individual freedom, both sides believe society should comport to their version of society. The side willing to exert their will by force will win, but the win will be temporary because no one can keep up violent repression forever.

Human nature wants freedom: society fights against this. And society always changes over time to comport with human nature until such time that the society becomes so unstable that it fails.

Anyway sorry for the rant... but like the OP said, individuals will always figure out a way to prevail, even if they have to go underground, form black markets and operate. If you don't think there are a lot of atheists in Saudi Arabia you are living in a dream world... they are there, they just go though societal motions, and pray three times a day facing Mecca all the while thinking "This is so fvcking stupid."
I respect your opinions sometimes but this is bs
 

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Well it been said before....
But by 2030 you will own nothing but you will be happy and eating bugs, (eating real meat will just be as an occasional treat):
if WEF and all our politicians (which mostly are members of WEF) will have it's way and for now it sadly seems they are succeeding with their agenda. Most people are not opposing to this (E.g. sheep), but are drawn into it so unless something drastically happens this is our scary future.
 
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