"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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if you are not her type, she is not your type

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have you guys had this realization?
if a girl rejects you, obviously you are not her type.
but did you know, she is also not your type?
in other words, if she is your type, she is going to give you a chance.
to put it another way, if you reject a girl, not only is she not your type, but also you are not her type.
does that sound right?
Agree
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Doesn't really make sense. She was his type until the rejection occurred. Otherwise, why did he approach?
If what was your "type" always did you dirty or turned out to be a bad experience, eventually it would no longer be your "type". Your "type" would be the one you are attracted to with favorable outcomes.
 

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have you guys had this realization?
if a girl rejects you, obviously you are not her type.
but did you know, she is also not your type?
in other words, if she is your type, she is going to give you a chance.
to put it another way, if you reject a girl, not only is she not your type, but also you are not her type.
does that sound right?
Or maybe you are also not your type as well.

She lacks attraction to you either because of something that you either cannot change or you are not willing to change, or because you are not good enough by what should be your own standards.
 

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No, it does not sound right because it's not right. Sounds like a Cop out for a bruised ego after getting rejected, but whatever helps you guys sleep at night.
 

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This is what I struggle with. I'm not where I should be in life, so I think this affects my vibe/game.
That's most of the people on here whether they like to admit it or not. There are trolls on here as well as outright liars. The women on here are here for their own egotistical reasons. Most of the guys on here do not try hard enough; I'm in that category but I also have a lot going on.

From what I can tell from regular posters:
@Jack22 and @Zimbabwe are two younger dudes that are trying to do the right things. @Pan87 actually knows what he is talking about. @Hamurabimbi @RangerMIke @Black Widow Void (even though he tried to get me banned), @EyeOnThePrize @Barrister (and there are some others) that have some good experience. I would say at least half of the people here are not worth listening to.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If what was your "type" always did you dirty or turned out to be a bad experience, eventually it would no longer be your "type". Your "type" would be the one you are attracted to with favorable outcomes.
Just stop, sounds ridiculous
 

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I can see how the mindset would work and on the surface, it does work and should be something beginners and intermediates hold onto. However, you have to understand women also are emotional and if you are her but she isnt in the mood, she will reject you. Timing is also key which is why consistency is important.
 

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Sounds like cope
Some of them bishes end up looking ugly when you know what it is, it's not a cope. Dudes can fvck something else.

Let me ask you, what if his "type" you always thought was unattractive? You'd tell him he wasn't seeing straight.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm not sure there is a type. A woman see's a man, "in her mind" she believes he's awesome and wants him in her bed.
She morphs into what she believes he will like, and hangs onto that for as long as she still has him on the top shelf. The mans type is what he believes she is. Charming-funny-sexy-makes sandwiches. As time passes "type" can go in any direction. I'm not jaded, I love women when their my type.
 

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How are you defining "type"?

She/he is not your type, she/he is out of your league, such terms have always confused me.

Anyway, if you mean if she doesn't think you're right for her, so therefore she in turn is not right for you, then I 100% agree with that.

For it to be right and for there to be a connection, you both have to be 'feeling it.'

Connection = Two people joining together, on the same page, both feeling they are right for each other.
that's a legitimate question and i think it's part of the confusion here because i didn't define type. some people think by type i am talking about looks. it's not about looks. type means you like her overall including appearance and personality.
i will give you an example. let's say there is a girl who likes guys with tattoos. i dont have tattoos so she rejects me. that worked out perfectly because i dont like girls who like guys who have tattoos. they are not my type.
 

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No, stop being foolish
Others already addressed it earlier in the discussion. No female whose excessively controlling, selfish and a few other qualities is attractive to me no matter how she looks. That **** is unattractive. I normally like fit babes, some heavier babes can be pretty too. She has to be feminine. Also not wasting time forcing anything with a babe whose not feeling me.
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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the morpher is fine for a short period. After some time she will unravel into who she is. That is my experience
That is true. If you get serious serious with her. If you however keep in her a relationship that I describe here that "short" period can be extended to years even.

Why? Maintaining the relationship under this dynamic makes it a whole hell of a lot easier to remain on her "top shelf" like Jim is talking about.
 

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have you guys had this realization?
if a girl rejects you, obviously you are not her type.
but did you know, she is also not your type?
in other words, if she is your type, she is going to give you a chance.
to put it another way, if you reject a girl, not only is she not your type, but also you are not her type.
does that sound right?
I would put it a slightly different way - a girl that doesn't like you is useless. In life, there's no point wasting your time on people that don't appreciate you.
 
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