"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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When is Pook coming back to post "The Gift"?

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He said he would post "The Gift" before he disappeared.

But I haven't seen it yet.

Let Pook not be made out to be a liar!

!GEORGE GORDON!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Pook is long gone. He hasn’t been here since 2013, and that was just an anonymous visit.
 

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No, he's coming back! Just wait! He said he would post it; thus, he will.
 

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Darn, I was hoping Pook would return to tell us how to get out of this coronavirus mess.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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He said he would post "The Gift" before he disappeared.

But I haven't seen it yet.

Let Pook not be made out to be a liar!

!GEORGE GORDON!
sorry about taking this all back from so long ago but um...

I was just here reading the one post where you (yes, you George Gordon) was talking to him about your friend's girlfriends hitting on you and somewhere there in the convo he says he would make a document of everything he posted here plus unpublished material and release (not clarifying how or where, just saying it wouldn't be here). He never answered you last message there.

I got the feeling he passed away suddenly and didn't had the time to come back and do what he intended. It's impossible to think he wouldn't understand the impact his thoughts had on a score of dudes and how his posts here popped the bubble and went way beyond. Some other place he stated he was here for too long already (around 2005-06) but I sure think he still stuff to say.
 

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The manosphere needs the @Pook more than ever right now. He is wise and experienced on these matters beyond compare. But where is he? Does he not realize his services are needed, and it should be his duty to step up to the podium?

Fine. If not him, I'll turn myself into a Pook. Remember how his signature used to say "Become a Pook" then he linked to a gaining muscle program. I bought that program and once put on 30lbs of pure muscle. I'll do it again, if I have to. But this time I'll put on 50lbs, just the @Pook did!

Who wants to see me do it?

Keep in mind, I'm currently an alcoholic and a smoker, so I have two massive hurdles to jump. But if you guys want another Pook, I'll do it!
 

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The manosphere needs the @Pook more than ever right now. He is wise and experienced on these matters beyond compare. But where is he? Does he not realize his services are needed, and it should be his duty to step up to the podium?

Fine. If not him, I'll turn myself into a Pook. Remember how his signature used to say "Become a Pook" then he linked to a gaining muscle program. I bought that program and once put on 30lbs of pure muscle. I'll do it again, if I have to. But this time I'll put on 50lbs, just the @Pook did!

Who wants to see me do it?

Keep in mind, I'm currently an alcoholic and a smoker, so I have two massive hurdles to jump. But if you guys want another Pook, I'll do it!
I'm nobody to give you advice, but uhm... Do it for yourself if you would. Not for us.

I'm perfectly fine with the idea you old school guys became some kind of David Xs with a round and hard belly, some grayish beard, drinking and smoking and still banging 25 yo 9s lmao
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I always just figured Pook moved on to more important things.
 

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I'm nobody to give you advice, but uhm... Do it for yourself if you would. Not for us.

I'm perfectly fine with the idea you old school guys became some kind of David Xs with a round and hard belly, some grayish beard, drinking and smoking and still banging 25 yo 9s lmao
Who honestly does anything inherently for themselves?

I think that's a fallacy.

Especially we as men, we want respect more than anything. But that depends on others giving it to us. And for that to happen, we have to give them a reason.

Us men want recognition, and there's nothing wrong with that. I would say it's built into us instinctively.

We all need a motive to change. And often times that comes from the external, doesn't it?
I always just figured Pook moved on to more important things.
More important things than being a benefactor to other men? Is there such a thing?
 

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There was a time when I considered Pook's words to be timeless.... I thought he could have been the Marcus Aurelius of the Manosphere.....

..but sadly, his words did not survive the test of time like Marcus Aurelius'.....social media and OLD have revealed women's true nature. Forget about "Frame" or "abundance mentality" or "No contact" or "push/pull" or any of that nonsense.....

In the social media era the only things that matter are Looks, Height, Money....
 

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More important things than being a benefactor to other men? Is there such a thing?
More important than banging random women. From what he said, there was never a time when he really struggled with women anyway. He said women had always been drawn to him because he was tall. So maybe it wasn't really that much of a challenge for him. He had said that a few years before he wrote his "50 lbs. of muscle" story. I always found that story puzzling because it didn't square with some of his older statements. But I didn't know he was selling a bodybuilding program, that would explain it.
 

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Who honestly does anything inherently for themselves?

I think that's a fallacy.

Especially we as men, we want respect more than anything. But that depends on others giving it to us. And for that to happen, we have to give them a reason.

Us men want recognition, and there's nothing wrong with that. I would say it's built into us instinctively.
It seems you didn't read "The Way of Men". Respect is tied to mastery and courage. And you have that (at least this is what I expect from anyone with 20 years of DJing). You don't need to be Pook 2.0 to be respected. You're already respected as George Gordon.

My biggest regret at the moment is to have spent all my life up to this point living for myself, caring about my own problems, doing what brought me pleasure. I need to do more for other people, for my community. Maybe I'm being a little too harsh on myself (which is the norm for me) but I definitely feel I MUST do more for others. I feel I've done too little.

We all need a motive to change. And often times that comes from the external, doesn't it?
That's true. But change is something that also happens to us, not just something we do. And we not always need to change. But again, if you feel the need to change, it's for you. You feel you have to change because you are dissatisfied with your present condition. To me you look fine just the way you are lmao I/we have nothing to do with the way you perceive yourself. Or at least as DJs, we shouldn't let it affect us. Control your emotions, 'member?

More important things than being a benefactor to other men? Is there such a thing?
My theory is he doesn't know (or knew) he is a such a benefactor to other men. Maybe he thought he was just posting on an obscure forum without realizing how far the ripples of the pebble he threw were going.

Bottom line, maybe you let yourself get complacent and forgot who you are. Maybe that's where you need to change, just to come back. Because like Pook used to say, you don't live to DJ, you DJ to live. DJ becomes your life, it becomes yourself, it becomes the only way you know how to exist in the world. For the past 5-7 years I haven't been able to turn it off for a single moment. When I relax, something happens and I kick myself for relaxing and remember David X's quote: "Be relentless". It never stops. It never ends. It's a way to react to the world, who's always checking if you're still there and going strong.
 
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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More important than banging random women. From what he said, there was never a time when he really struggled with women anyway. He said women had always been drawn to him because he was tall. So maybe it wasn't really that much of a challenge for him. He had said that a few years before he wrote his "50 lbs. of muscle" story. I always found that story puzzling because it didn't square with some of his older statements. But I didn't know he was selling a bodybuilding program, that would explain it.
I'm not in the position to question 1st hand accounts of how it was like back then but the link redirects to the forum mainpage. I always thought this was on purpose, because to be a Pook and look like a Pook you gotta be in the Forum shaping yourself and others.

"This is how you become a Pook: meet the Forum!"
 

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I'm not in the position to question 1st hand accounts of how it was like back then but the link redirects to the forum mainpage. I always thought this was on purpose, because to be a Pook and look like a Pook you gotta be in the Forum shaping yourself and others.

"This is how you become a Pook: meet the Forum!"
Nope, it originally meant: gain 50lbs of muscle mass by following Ellis' program.

I'll reply to your first post tomorrow when I'm sober and have the time to concentrate.
 

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Nope, it originally meant: gain 50lbs of muscle mass by following Ellis' program.

I'll reply to your first post tomorrow when I'm sober and have the time to concentrate.
I remembered the post where he talks about his gainz and went there. The link for the program also takes you to the forum mainpage.

But googling for it I found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/gainit/comments/pbj5z
Was Pook recommending a book? Assuming the very likely possibility he's not Ellis, what would he be earning from recommending a book? Was he selling the book? Was he selling a program by telling people there was a book where the author he mentions the name tells you the exact same thing? lmao knowing Pook was not this stupid, I hardly think he was selling anything
 

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In the social media era the only things that matter are Looks, Height, Money....
Looks, height, and money help get you in the door. Game determines how long you stay and how far you get.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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