"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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When is Pook coming back to post "The Gift"?

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He said he would post "The Gift" before he disappeared.

But I haven't seen it yet.

Let Pook not be made out to be a liar!

!GEORGE GORDON!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Pook is long gone. He hasn’t been here since 2013, and that was just an anonymous visit.
 

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No, he's coming back! Just wait! He said he would post it; thus, he will.
 

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Darn, I was hoping Pook would return to tell us how to get out of this coronavirus mess.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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He said he would post "The Gift" before he disappeared.

But I haven't seen it yet.

Let Pook not be made out to be a liar!

!GEORGE GORDON!
sorry about taking this all back from so long ago but um...

I was just here reading the one post where you (yes, you George Gordon) was talking to him about your friend's girlfriends hitting on you and somewhere there in the convo he says he would make a document of everything he posted here plus unpublished material and release (not clarifying how or where, just saying it wouldn't be here). He never answered you last message there.

I got the feeling he passed away suddenly and didn't had the time to come back and do what he intended. It's impossible to think he wouldn't understand the impact his thoughts had on a score of dudes and how his posts here popped the bubble and went way beyond. Some other place he stated he was here for too long already (around 2005-06) but I sure think he still stuff to say.
 

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The manosphere needs the @Pook more than ever right now. He is wise and experienced on these matters beyond compare. But where is he? Does he not realize his services are needed, and it should be his duty to step up to the podium?

Fine. If not him, I'll turn myself into a Pook. Remember how his signature used to say "Become a Pook" then he linked to a gaining muscle program. I bought that program and once put on 30lbs of pure muscle. I'll do it again, if I have to. But this time I'll put on 50lbs, just the @Pook did!

Who wants to see me do it?

Keep in mind, I'm currently an alcoholic and a smoker, so I have two massive hurdles to jump. But if you guys want another Pook, I'll do it!
 

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The manosphere needs the @Pook more than ever right now. He is wise and experienced on these matters beyond compare. But where is he? Does he not realize his services are needed, and it should be his duty to step up to the podium?

Fine. If not him, I'll turn myself into a Pook. Remember how his signature used to say "Become a Pook" then he linked to a gaining muscle program. I bought that program and once put on 30lbs of pure muscle. I'll do it again, if I have to. But this time I'll put on 50lbs, just the @Pook did!

Who wants to see me do it?

Keep in mind, I'm currently an alcoholic and a smoker, so I have two massive hurdles to jump. But if you guys want another Pook, I'll do it!
I'm nobody to give you advice, but uhm... Do it for yourself if you would. Not for us.

I'm perfectly fine with the idea you old school guys became some kind of David Xs with a round and hard belly, some grayish beard, drinking and smoking and still banging 25 yo 9s lmao
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I always just figured Pook moved on to more important things.
 

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I'm nobody to give you advice, but uhm... Do it for yourself if you would. Not for us.

I'm perfectly fine with the idea you old school guys became some kind of David Xs with a round and hard belly, some grayish beard, drinking and smoking and still banging 25 yo 9s lmao
Who honestly does anything inherently for themselves?

I think that's a fallacy.

Especially we as men, we want respect more than anything. But that depends on others giving it to us. And for that to happen, we have to give them a reason.

Us men want recognition, and there's nothing wrong with that. I would say it's built into us instinctively.

We all need a motive to change. And often times that comes from the external, doesn't it?
I always just figured Pook moved on to more important things.
More important things than being a benefactor to other men? Is there such a thing?
 

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There was a time when I considered Pook's words to be timeless.... I thought he could have been the Marcus Aurelius of the Manosphere.....

..but sadly, his words did not survive the test of time like Marcus Aurelius'.....social media and OLD have revealed women's true nature. Forget about "Frame" or "abundance mentality" or "No contact" or "push/pull" or any of that nonsense.....

In the social media era the only things that matter are Looks, Height, Money....
 

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More important things than being a benefactor to other men? Is there such a thing?
More important than banging random women. From what he said, there was never a time when he really struggled with women anyway. He said women had always been drawn to him because he was tall. So maybe it wasn't really that much of a challenge for him. He had said that a few years before he wrote his "50 lbs. of muscle" story. I always found that story puzzling because it didn't square with some of his older statements. But I didn't know he was selling a bodybuilding program, that would explain it.
 

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Who honestly does anything inherently for themselves?

I think that's a fallacy.

Especially we as men, we want respect more than anything. But that depends on others giving it to us. And for that to happen, we have to give them a reason.

Us men want recognition, and there's nothing wrong with that. I would say it's built into us instinctively.
It seems you didn't read "The Way of Men". Respect is tied to mastery and courage. And you have that (at least this is what I expect from anyone with 20 years of DJing). You don't need to be Pook 2.0 to be respected. You're already respected as George Gordon.

My biggest regret at the moment is to have spent all my life up to this point living for myself, caring about my own problems, doing what brought me pleasure. I need to do more for other people, for my community. Maybe I'm being a little too harsh on myself (which is the norm for me) but I definitely feel I MUST do more for others. I feel I've done too little.

We all need a motive to change. And often times that comes from the external, doesn't it?
That's true. But change is something that also happens to us, not just something we do. And we not always need to change. But again, if you feel the need to change, it's for you. You feel you have to change because you are dissatisfied with your present condition. To me you look fine just the way you are lmao I/we have nothing to do with the way you perceive yourself. Or at least as DJs, we shouldn't let it affect us. Control your emotions, 'member?

More important things than being a benefactor to other men? Is there such a thing?
My theory is he doesn't know (or knew) he is a such a benefactor to other men. Maybe he thought he was just posting on an obscure forum without realizing how far the ripples of the pebble he threw were going.

Bottom line, maybe you let yourself get complacent and forgot who you are. Maybe that's where you need to change, just to come back. Because like Pook used to say, you don't live to DJ, you DJ to live. DJ becomes your life, it becomes yourself, it becomes the only way you know how to exist in the world. For the past 5-7 years I haven't been able to turn it off for a single moment. When I relax, something happens and I kick myself for relaxing and remember David X's quote: "Be relentless". It never stops. It never ends. It's a way to react to the world, who's always checking if you're still there and going strong.
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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More important than banging random women. From what he said, there was never a time when he really struggled with women anyway. He said women had always been drawn to him because he was tall. So maybe it wasn't really that much of a challenge for him. He had said that a few years before he wrote his "50 lbs. of muscle" story. I always found that story puzzling because it didn't square with some of his older statements. But I didn't know he was selling a bodybuilding program, that would explain it.
I'm not in the position to question 1st hand accounts of how it was like back then but the link redirects to the forum mainpage. I always thought this was on purpose, because to be a Pook and look like a Pook you gotta be in the Forum shaping yourself and others.

"This is how you become a Pook: meet the Forum!"
 

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I'm not in the position to question 1st hand accounts of how it was like back then but the link redirects to the forum mainpage. I always thought this was on purpose, because to be a Pook and look like a Pook you gotta be in the Forum shaping yourself and others.

"This is how you become a Pook: meet the Forum!"
Nope, it originally meant: gain 50lbs of muscle mass by following Ellis' program.

I'll reply to your first post tomorrow when I'm sober and have the time to concentrate.
 

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Nope, it originally meant: gain 50lbs of muscle mass by following Ellis' program.

I'll reply to your first post tomorrow when I'm sober and have the time to concentrate.
I remembered the post where he talks about his gainz and went there. The link for the program also takes you to the forum mainpage.

But googling for it I found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/gainit/comments/pbj5z
Was Pook recommending a book? Assuming the very likely possibility he's not Ellis, what would he be earning from recommending a book? Was he selling the book? Was he selling a program by telling people there was a book where the author he mentions the name tells you the exact same thing? lmao knowing Pook was not this stupid, I hardly think he was selling anything
 

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In the social media era the only things that matter are Looks, Height, Money....
Looks, height, and money help get you in the door. Game determines how long you stay and how far you get.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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