MatureDJ
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First-world countries are pretty much the absolute worst places to go on a sex tour outside of Muslim countries.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Will men of the future work 60-year careers if there is no poon in it for them?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
MatureDJ
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It doesn't mean that life isn't worth living; it's that working hard in life is not worth it. And this doesn't preclude building a career - just that the incels are only in it long enough to build up a very modest nest egg from which to live cheaply.
MatureDJ
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If I were to go through a bad divorce, that would be it for me getting into "legal entanglements".
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From what my parents tell me the desire for "poon" fades after 60.
For people who are paying off their home, usually once that occurs you now have 25% less after tax expenses. You can dial down the career intensity. The compounding interest of retirement savings, combined with possibly selling and downsizing a home gives folks the financial freedom to do what they WANT TO. and HAPPY people are attractive people....
For people who are paying off their home, usually once that occurs you now have 25% less after tax expenses. You can dial down the career intensity. The compounding interest of retirement savings, combined with possibly selling and downsizing a home gives folks the financial freedom to do what they WANT TO. and HAPPY people are attractive people....
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Depends on what you're working for. If you're working hard to achieve your dreams and ambitions, I'd say it's probably worth it.
As you are perhaps implying, incels may not have that kind of drive or aspirations.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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If you don't plan on living like them, don't listen to them. They don't want to have sex after 60, is that the group you desire to be with?
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Yes, in fact it is precisely because the incels are not motivated to work hard that so many of them NEETmax.