“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I found this one and I just couldn't believe it:

There was a girl in my class. We were so into each other all the time that entire school thought we had a thing going. She was single, I was into some other girl who continuously ignored me. One day after school, I saw a boy following my friend. The next day I asked her about it and she told me that he had been following her from many days and wants her to get into a relationship with him. I took two of my male classmates and beat that guy up the very next day. One of the friends I had taken tells me the next day that he likes this friend of mine so I introduce them and they get along really well. The entire school cannot believe it. The boy ****s up couple of weeks later and both of us, me and that girl, laugh it off like as usual. After few weeks, the other guy I had taken with me walks upto me and talks about that girl. I tell him not to mess with her but he pursues her anyway. I maintain my distance this time and the entire school goes haywire once again. They carry on for couple of months until the boy's mother creates big scene and the girls breaks up with him. She meets up with me and once again we laugh it off. She wonders whether she will get a good guy in life or would she be getting into all this mess every time. Instantly, I propose her citing all the reasons of us being awesome friends and the fact that entire school already thinks we are a couple. She politely disagrees and says she doesn't want to lose a good friend and friendzones me effortlessly. We stayed friends for 12 years after school and then she got married and cut all communications with me. I still have her number but she never answers, never replies on whatsapp. Makes me think she might need her friend someday, so I am just telling her that I am around, always.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Bat_Soup, please tell me one thing. It says you joined April 10th, 2020 right ? You have posted 3105 messages, and i see that you have the title " Master Don Juan". How is it possible for "MASTER DON JUAN" to be so active here and be so damn successful with the ladies ? Something dosent add up....
 

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Longest I’ve ever been Friendzoned was for 2 1/2 years when I was 15. What’s funny is she still lives about 5 miles from me and I see her around town every so often and she just stares at me but we haven’t spoken in over 20 years.
 

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Longest I’ve ever been Friendzoned was for 2 1/2 years when I was 15. What’s funny is she still lives about 5 miles from me and I see her around town every so often and she just stares at me but we haven’t spoken in over 20 years.
It can be quite satisfying to see these women years later, after their looks decline.
 

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We stayed friends for 12 years after school and then she got married and cut all communications with me. I still have her number but she never answers, never replies on whatsapp. Makes me think she might need her friend someday, so I am just telling her that I am around, always.
Ignorance is bliss as always...
 

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Jr High and high school crush. We met at an extracurricular event outside of school in 7th grade and she was "my girlfriend" for a day until she told me her dad forbade her from having a boyfriend. In Highschool she dated a friend of mine until he graduated. Then I took her as my date to a dance. I kept in contact with her and visited her when home from college. I was always the gentleman, never pushed anything physical.

One night in college I visited her and told her I'd met a woman who I intended to marry. She wished me well. When social media came along we reunited and both caught up with each other's marriages and families. She shared photos of us when she was my date at the dance in HS.

20 plus years after high school, I'm divorcing my wife and she's divorced with a much younger boyfriend. She invites me to stay with her while travelling through. I spend the night at her mother's house going one way then on the return trip with her and her family. During this visit she confides to me the night I told her I was engaged, she had intended to ask if we could "try to make it work [long distance dating]" .

My only reply was "well timing is a ***** eh?"

Since then we haven't talked or communicated. Looking at her family and her life I dodged a HUGE bullet. So I can't be mad I was FZ'ed for so long. Looking back I think she didn't think she measured up to what I deserved. I'm thankful for that, because she was right.
 

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Met a chick at a bar circa 2005. Went to her place for date 3.

Watched tv, played with the cat, ate pizza, and talked. She gets up to go change. Comes back with just a tshirt and panties on. Sits next to me. I move in closer. She pulls back and says:

“You’re everything I ever wanted in a guy, Mike. Even my cat loves you, and he hates everybody. But I’m into bad boys. You should leave now.”

I walked out and deleted her number from my (analog lol) phone.
 

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I'm not sure if I ever was friend zoned. Maybe this one time: Good girl, attractive etc. we both are in LTR, her dude is in USA for some months, we live in GER, she tries to get into contact a lot, we have lunch at work once a week or more often, she follows me to the gym easily 2 times a week. I'm not super happy with my GF anymore, but it's ok, same for her. I know, after 6 month her dude will be back and there won't be contact anymore, I also tell her, she says, no friends forever bla bla. We spend some nice 6 months and I also develop very small feelings for her, the dude returns, she leaves my life as expected, I'm fine with it. Idk if this was a friend zone, I guess she had feelings too.

Some weeks later she gets into contact again, he dumped her, we start spending time again, this time more intense, I dump my GF, we start dating and she becomes my GF for 5 years until the relationship deteriorates... rest of the story you can read in the break up thread.
 

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During this visit she confides to me the night I told her I was engaged, she had intended to ask if we could "try to make it work [long distance dating]" .

My only reply was "well timing is a ***** eh?"

Since then we haven't talked or communicated. Looking at her family and her life I dodged a HUGE bullet. So I can't be mad I was FZ'ed for so long. Looking back I think she didn't think she measured up to what I deserved. I'm thankful for that, because she was right.
Sounds like you where her backup/fallback option if her plans didn't turn out the way she wanted...

Ye, it sounds like you really dodged big pile of sheite... :up:
 

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Bat_Soup, please tell me one thing. It says you joined April 10th, 2020 right ? You have posted 3105 messages, and i see that you have the title " Master Don Juan". How is it possible for "MASTER DON JUAN" to be so active here and be so damn successful with the ladies ? Something dosent add up....
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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Met a chick at a bar circa 2005. Went to her place for date 3.

Watched tv, played with the cat, ate pizza, and talked. She gets up to go change. Comes back with just a tshirt and panties on. Sits next to me. I move in closer. She pulls back and says:

“You’re everything I ever wanted in a guy, Mike. Even my cat loves you, and he hates everybody. But I’m into bad boys. You should leave now.”

I walked out and deleted her number from my (analog lol) phone.
Today she’s a single mom of multiple kids from various fathers I bet lol
 

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I remember having one of the most boring conversations during a 2nd date, she asked me "what are your hobbies and interests" and I just replied with "Sex". It caught her off guard, I know for a fact she didn't expect that answer.

She started laughing, and before i knew it the whole conversation shifted to Sex, i asked to combine our two interests (her one was going outdoors) for outdoor sex.

We ended up doing it in the bathroom at a public park, I'm still amazed at how one word changed an entire interaction.
 
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It was definitely a very mixed message.
If she hadn’t have said the “you can leave” and just stopped at the “I like bad boys” that would have been the perfect time to make a move and make out with her.
 

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I remember having one of the most boring conversations during a 2nd date, she asked me "what are your hobbies and interests" and I just replied with "Sex". It caught her off guard, I know for a fact she didn't expect that answer.

She started laughing, and before i knew it the whole conversation shifted to Sex, i asked to combine our two interests (her one was going outdoors) for outdoor sex.

We ended up doing it in the bathroom at a public park, I'm still amazed at how one word changed an entire interaction.
That´s a good hobby to have.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Met a chick at a bar circa 2005. Went to her place for date 3.

Watched tv, played with the cat, ate pizza, and talked. She gets up to go change. Comes back with just a tshirt and panties on. Sits next to me. I move in closer. She pulls back and says:

“You’re everything I ever wanted in a guy, Mike. Even my cat loves you, and he hates everybody. But I’m into bad boys. You should leave now.”

I walked out and deleted her number from my (analog lol) phone.
It was definitely a very mixed message.
Today she’s a single mom of multiple kids from various fathers I bet lol
This was an epic story. It'd be awesome if you knew what she was up to 16 years later. She's probably gone from a 1 cat lady to a multiple cat lady.

The mixed message thing was unpleasant. You could have tried to push forward there if it was the middle of kissing.

Good move on the immediate deletion. The pre-smartphone cell phones had a lot going for them, especially those 2000-2005 era phones.
 

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Yeah she wasn’t joking. She said “You should leave now” in a businesslike tone. It was the weirdest thing. We were getting along great, and she did a 180.
It doesn't seem like there was any way to turn that one so you had to leave. Did you ever hear anything about her in the last 16 years? It is possible you visited one of her social media pages.
 

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It doesn't seem like there was any way to turn that one so you had to leave. Did you ever hear anything about her in the last 16 years? It is possible you visited one of her social media pages.
Never looked her up. But saw her leave another bar with a tatted, shaved head dude months later. So she was probably correct about being into bad boys.
 

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Never looked her up. But saw her leave another bar with a tatted, shaved head dude months later. So she was probably correct about being into bad boys.
I have lived in big U.S. metro areas since college graduation more than 15 years ago. I've been in the same city now for 10 years. I rarely run into people I know randomly. So if I want to know what a random person I know is doing, social media pages are how I tend to find things out.

One benefit of living in bigger cities/metro areas is that you tend not to run people randomly. This is good when you don't want to see a woman after a bad interaction or a longer term relationship goes sour. I briefly dated a woman in a nearby apartment complex and saw her a couple of times after the fact. Then, I also had a bad interaction with someone in my gym and had to see her in the gym for a bit afterwards until she changed gyms. I even saw her in the grocery store. Biatch!

I can imagine a lot of men on this forum haven't been bad enough dudes to be the bad boy. Even though I score well in the 2 of the 3 dark triad traits, I don't give off an immediate bad boy vibe.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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