You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
haha we need to talk you have my number now brother wait til you here my current situationSure I would nail her if she was in great shape and sexually open. (Uninhibited)
Hard pass. Not really a kids person (which aren't mine).Would you date a single mother with kids no matter how many no matter how hot if yes why if no why
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
How old are youI'm going to backpeddle. I remember my ex-wife had a daughter in 2014 and I enjoyed her step-daughter's company along with us together as a family. I was doubly devastated by the separation, break-up, divorce because it effected her and I would no longer ever see her again, etc.. and it was nice having a step-daughter like her at that time. She almost seemed more sensible than my ex-wife whose behaviour and attitude basically doomed the marriage. Being 45 years old or older, a "ready-made" family would mean I don't have to worry about changing diapers, or toilet training or feel I have to look for a way younger woman who is in child-bearing age which would severely limit my prospects as I'm getting older unless I get an astronomical SMV boost.
That was answered in the post. 45.How old are you
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Most moms I have met fvck good, but I'm the type of guy if I'm not serious about it I'm not going to lead a single mother on or give her any sex at all, it's never worth the fall out stress, the second there are kids involved coming and going is less favorable, like you tell her you want to meet the kids but that is very serious to meWhy does the fact that she has kids make her unfvckable if she’s attractive and DTF? I’ve had fun evenings with single mothers, not like I was trying to marry any of them.
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, to each their own and she could potentially be part of a good rotation. However, guys that are on the fence and making the time to create a thread asking for advice if they should date/f*ck/interact with a single mother are not the typical guys living in abundance with lots of options aka guys that can dismiss a woman when necessary. These are the guys that live in scarcity that get overwhelmed by the attention and special treatment they're getting and destined to attach and start rationalizing various serious scenarios with single mothers. I'd say staying away would be the sensible thing to do in a case like that so that would also be my go-to advice since i see single mothers as the most dangerous women on the dating market because of their agenda and honed skills to manipulate men into commiting. A mother of four with multiple fathers just spells trouble all over.Why does the fact that she has kids make her unfvckable if she’s attractive and DTF? I’ve had fun evenings with single mothers, not like I was trying to marry any of them.
ok how has it turned out for you since then?That was answered in the post. 45.
How has what exactly turned out for me since then?ok how has it turned out for you since then?
I have not dealt with any other woman since that divorce. With my reputation and type of posts here, what would make you believe I have any relationship with women period or a current girl? You also post in the General Discussions, so you must have seen my other posts around.your relationship with women or current girl?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.