2nd Date Update

[SargeMaximus]

Otherwise how do you explain a woman admitting to offering something that if you agree to, it gives her not good feelings?

I don’t understand. Can you rephrase what you mean?

 

[BeExcellent]

It’s not a **** test

He asked how it made me feel if a man accepted my offer to split or pay.

If a man asks me out, and then allows me to split or pay it’s not a shjt test. It just isn’t congruent with leading. A gentleman asks, and a gentleman picks up the check. My offer is sincere, always. I am worth it and I am sought after. I am a good reflection on the man I am with and I do spoil my man. I am a natural giver. But I also know my worth and appreciate knowing that my date knows my worth too.

This is very rarely an issue on a first date. Typically the man is very proud to be seen with me and will insist on picking up the check.

I am very generous in many ways once I am seeing someone. I treat my man like a king. But a wise king values his Queen

 

[SargeMaximus]

He asked how it made me feel if a man accepted my offer to split or pay.

If a man asks me out, and then allows me to split or pay it’s not a shjt test. It just isn’t congruent with leading. A gentleman asks, and a gentleman picks up the check. My offer is sincere, always. I am worth it and I am sought after. I am a good reflection on the man I am with and I do spoil my man. I am a natural giver. But I also know my worth and appreciate knowing that my date knows my worth too.

This is very rarely an issue on a first date. Typically the man is very proud to be seen with me and will insist on picking up the check.

I am very generous in many ways once I am seeing someone. I treat my man like a king. But a wise king values his Queen

That’s one pov. Imo a woman has to earn me paying for her

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Nah I’ve had women buy me drinks in the first date before

They spread for you after liquoring you up?

 

[SargeMaximus]

They spread for you after liquorice you up?

Yeah in fact one woman bought us two bottles of wine and we fvcked in my car for hours. That was a few years ago

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yeah in fact one woman bought us two bottles of wine and we fvcked in my car for hours. That was a few years ago

Thats fvcking living life!

 

[SargeMaximus]

Thats fvcking living life!

Yeah she was the polyamorous girl I ended up living with for a time. Amazing sex, she cooked for me, rent free. Good times

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yeah she was the polyamorous girl I ended up living with for a time. Amazing sex, she cooked for me, rent free. Good times

Must've had your swag on 1 million.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Must've had your swag on 1 million.

I honestly don’t know. I made her *** a bunch but that’s never been hard for me. Her sister was much hotter and she had a boyfriend who couldn’t last longer than a minute with her yet the sister never seemed interested in me so that was a lesson for me.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I honestly don’t know. I made her *** a bunch but that’s never been hard for me. Her sister was much hotter and she had a boyfriend who couldn’t last longer than a minute with her yet the sister never seemed interested in me so that was a lesson for me.

Some of em love that 1 minute sh1t. I guess it makes them think their pvssy is the bomb.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Some of em love that 1 minute sh1t. I guess it makes them think their pvssy is the bomb.

Dude if that’s true then I need to own my PE because I have that all the time but over the years I learned how to pace myself and can last over an hour like I did last night

 

[Black Widow Void]

Based on my personal experience, I completely disagree.

Although my default is to pick up the tab, my wallet not only a appreciates a woman willing to pay her way, but I respect her as well.

I've taken out several women that have said (paraphrasing) "it seems selfish for a man to pay for my dinner when in this day and age, we both make a comfortable living." These were feminine women. The added bonus was that they now appeared as also self-assured and practical thinking women.

Perhaps there are feminist type women that adopt this mindset as well, but if your eyes are open, you'll pick up on those traits before thinking of asking them out .

 

[Black Widow Void]

He asked how it made me feel if a man accepted my offer to split or pay.

If a man asks me out, and then allows me to split or pay it’s not a shjt test. It just isn’t congruent with leading. A gentleman asks, and a gentleman picks up the check. My offer is sincere, always. I am worth it and I am sought after. I am a good reflection on the man I am with and I do spoil my man. I am a natural giver. But I also know my worth and appreciate knowing that my date knows my worth too.

This is very rarely an issue on a first date. Typically the man is very proud to be seen with me and will insist on picking up the check.

I am very generous in many ways once I am seeing someone. I treat my man like a king. But a wise king values his Queen

While this sounds good in theory, let's remove the smoke screen. You are inadvertently charging a man for your services (your company). While dollar bills aren't going directly from his hands to yours, the money *is* simply being 'laundered.' in the form of food, drinks etc...

Why cloak this ritual as believing that a woman is to be treated like a a "queen?' In reality, women are participating in a variation of prostitution.

 

[SargeMaximus]

While this sounds good in theory, let's remove the smoke screen. You are inadvertently charging a man for your services (your company). While dollar bills aren't going directly from his hands to yours, the money *is* simply being 'laundered.' in the form of food, drinks etc...

Why cloak this ritual as believing that a woman is to be treated like a a "queen?' In reality, women are participating in a variation of prostitution.

Not to mention that “company” is hardly something any high value male would pay for

 

[Black Widow Void]

Not to mention that “company” is hardly something any high value male would pay for

I disagree (but I appreciate your opinion).

There are men on this forum that have openly admitted to paying for escorts. Why would I consider these forum members to be of any less self-worth? After all, If I pick up the tab on a date (and any man with dating experience, has) I'm doing the exact same thing.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Props to him for sticking to his guns. I wanted to call in and congratulate him. The only reason a woman will insist on paying for her part of a date is if she is too independent or not that interested and doesnt want to feel obligated.

This is BS. If the guy wants an "old fashioned" woman, there is not shortage of dinner wh0res on tinder and other apps who go out with a new guy every day for free food (and sleep with none of those guys). In this day and age, if a woman offers to pay for her meal, it's a sign that she is at least somewhat interested in you.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I disagree (but I appreciate your opinion).

There are men on this forum that have openly admitted to paying for escorts. Why would I consider these forum members to be of any less self-worth? After all, If I pick up the tab on a date (and any man with dating experience, has) I'm doing the exact same thing.

I wasn’t talking about escorts. I myself would pay to fvck a pornstar if I had the money. I’m talking about sitting and chatting with a girl. Like BeExcellent said just her sitting with a guy somehow was valuable. I disagree. If you are a high value male, a woman around you should be a reflection of YOUR value, not hers.

planets orbit the sun. Are you a planet or a sun?

that’s what I was getting at.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Staged or not I agree with the male caller. I am old school when it comes to a first date and I believe the man should be the one paying. And to be honest, if I offered to pay and the woman insisted on splitting it after I said I would pick it up, it would be difficult for me to not to take that as a sign of disinterest.

You may be an old fashioned man, but you no longer live in an old fashioned world. Guys like you make for fertile hunting grounds for the dinner wh0res.

 

[Bokanovsky]

I disagree (but I appreciate your opinion).

There are men on this forum that have openly admitted to paying for escorts. Why would I consider these forum members to be of any less self-worth? After all, If I pick up the tab on a date (and any man with dating experience, has) I'm doing the exact same thing.

Did they pay the escorts for sex to go out for dinner with them? Because the latter is actually much worse.

 

[Barrister]

You may be an old fashioned man, but you no longer live in an old fashioned world. Guys like you make for fertile hunting grounds for the dinner wh0res.

This is a very myopic view on the subject. It’s a first date we’re talking about. If I ask a woman out - I’ll pay. I very much doubt this is contributing to the pandemic of “dinner wh0res,” but believe what you will.