“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Do street approaches ever work for you guys?

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I've been getting into cold approach. I've had some good interactions with women when they are stationary (like sitting in a park, for example) but I haven't really had any good interactions on the street. The times I've done it they usually walk away quickly and are creeped out. A lot of stuff I read from PUAs (or whatever the hell you wanna call them) say it's important to approach on the street when there's a high probability of rejection. But is there actually any point to it? How many women do you know who met their partner when he chased her down in a busy crosswalk? Have you ever succeeded with this? To be clear, I'm not giving up on cold approach, but just questioning whether chasing girls on the street/sidewalk specificallly is even worth it.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Idk what to think of that video. The guy admitted he was really drunk and was slurring his words. Also had basically no luck with any of the girls and the one who went home with him was probably staged. Still I guess I could try to give compliments like he did and see if they go anywhere.
 

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I like the very first day interaction he did, when the chick with the boyfriend was standing by herself. But even so, she was stationary.

When a girl is walking by you on the street, you need to gently put your hand up, like you're telling her to stop, when she's about 10 feet away from you. Give her time to react to what you're gesturing.

Don't wait until the moment when she's actually passing you. That gives her no time to react. She'll just keep on walking.
Yeah I like that interaction too but I don't think I could come up with all that sh1t to say lol. Guess I just gotta practice more. Hard when I live in a city that's not very big.
 

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I've been getting into cold approach. I've had some good interactions with women when they are stationary (like sitting in a park, for example) but I haven't really had any good interactions on the street. The times I've done it they usually walk away quickly and are creeped out. A lot of stuff I read from PUAs (or whatever the hell you wanna call them) say it's important to approach on the street when there's a high probability of rejection. But is there actually any point to it? How many women do you know who met their partner when he chased her down in a busy crosswalk? Have you ever succeeded with this? To be clear, I'm not giving up on cold approach, but just questioning whether chasing girls on the street/sidewalk specificallly is even worth it.
I have had a long-term relationship that started with a cold approach. Although, in my case, it wasn't that cold because the girl looked friendly.

I think it's a good exercise to improve your confidence - if you can approach on the street, then you can easily approach in a coffee shop, at a bar, on a train etc.

If women are walking away and refusing to talk to you, then perhaps you're coming across the wrong away. A lot of people have that automatic reaction because normally when someone you don't know comes up to you in the street it's to beg for money.
 

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I have had a long-term relationship that started with a cold approach. Although, in my case, it wasn't that cold because the girl looked friendly.

I think it's a good exercise to improve your confidence - if you can approach on the street, then you can easily approach in a coffee shop, at a bar, on a train etc.

If women are walking away and refusing to talk to you, then perhaps you're coming across the wrong away. A lot of people have that automatic reaction because normally when someone you don't know comes up to you in the street it's to beg for money.
Yeah you're probably right. My issue is that it's hard for me to approach when I only have seconds to do it. I guess that's the opposite problem most guys have (like the opposite of the '3 second rule'). If i see a girl sitting or standing still and have like a minute to think about it, lately I almost always end up talking myself into it eventually. But it's hard for me to act really quickly knowing I have like 3 seconds to say something.
 

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Yeah you're probably right. My issue is that it's hard for me to approach when I only have seconds to do it. I guess that's the opposite problem most guys have (like the opposite of the '3 second rule'). If i see a girl sitting or standing still and have like a minute to think about it, lately I almost always end up talking myself into it eventually. But it's hard for me to act really quickly knowing I have like 3 seconds to say something.
You don't have to do it in 3 seconds. If you find that applying the 3 second rule helps you, then do it that way but giving yourself more time to think about what to say might be a better strategy in some cases.

Sometimes you can also get cues from body language and eye contact.
 

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You don't have to do it in 3 seconds. If you find that applying the 3 second rule helps you, then do it that way but giving yourself more time to think about what to say might be a better strategy in some cases.

Sometimes you can also get cues from body language and eye contact.
Yeah I know, but I was talking about a girl walking by on the street or something, in that case, the window of opportunity is only about 3 seconds. I find I do better when I give myself some time when the girl is not moving.
 

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A lot of stuff I read from PUAs (or whatever the hell you wanna call them) say it's important to approach on the street when there's a high probability of rejection. But is there actually any point to it?
They don't tell you that because you will succeed. They tell you that because you will fail. They are wanting to "numb" you to the rejection.

BTW - In the UK you can be arrested for it now,...Canada will probably be next.

I never cold approach, and I never play the "numbers game". I work with women who I find via my normal social life. First I have to be attracted to them, and secondly I watch for signs of interest coming from them. Then I will weigh other things I learn about them in the process. I do not limit it to one at a time. When I feel satisfied enough in what I see and know about them, then I might offer a date if I feel like,...and if I don't feel like it I won't. I don't "need" the date. I don't "need" her.
 

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Based on women's reaction to you at the street level, you are probably an ethnic sub-5. If you post a picture up perhaps people can see if your looks have anything to do with the poor results. It's not normal for women to walk away or be creeped out which means you must look bad to them. This might be the most honest post you get about your situation so do post up your picture on here.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Based on women's reaction to you at the street level, you are probably an ethnic sub-5. If you post a picture up perhaps people can see if your looks have anything to do with the poor results. It's not normal for women to walk away or be creeped out which means you must look bad to them. This might be the most honest post you get about your situation so do post up your picture on here.
I'd say I'm around a 6 looks wise at least. And no I'm not gonna post a picture, IDGAF what some random anonymous guys think I look like
 

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I was debating this with my homie yesterday, he is a natural blue pill, he is raised by single mother and hyper masculine as a result, built like a brick **** house he said 7% bf. 6' tall

Dude isn't that into game, he just places himself beside any women and they do all the chasing.
 

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I've been getting into cold approach. I've had some good interactions with women when they are stationary (like sitting in a park, for example) but I haven't really had any good interactions on the street. The times I've done it they usually walk away quickly and are creeped out. A lot of stuff I read from PUAs (or whatever the hell you wanna call them) say it's important to approach on the street when there's a high probability of rejection. But is there actually any point to it? How many women do you know who met their partner when he chased her down in a busy crosswalk? Have you ever succeeded with this? To be clear, I'm not giving up on cold approach, but just questioning whether chasing girls on the street/sidewalk specificallly is even worth it.
Very successful for me. But that wasn't the case in the beginning, it took time and practice. That was the only way I actually build some real confidence and "game".

I'm in a relationship now so haven't done it in a while, obviously, but if you have ever read any of my older posts/comments I always advocate for cold approach and avoid OLD for many reasons.

For me, and I say this again FOR ME, my approach to cold approach (pardon the redundancy) was always to find out what is something of value that I can learn from this girl. I saw every strange woman as a whole new universe to explore and made it fun game of exploring and adventuring. So my thought before approaching was "what can I learn from her that will make me a better man and human being and what makes her unique". So that genuine approach and interest will always come across and in theory, should return better results whether in the form of a contact/date or simply a great conversation. This eliminates the fact that most guys approach strange women with a hidden agenda even if they don't know it or think the woman will not notice making them seem like every other creepy guy that has approached her.

Hope that makes sense.

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I'd say I'm around a 6 looks wise at least. And no I'm not gonna post a picture, IDGAF what some random anonymous guys think I look like
Sub-5s get the treatment by women you are talking about. So, even if you think you are a 6, if women are treating you like a 5 or less than means you are a sub-5. If you were a 6 then they would not walk away quickly or be creeped out. Most likely they wouldn't even notice you to even do that. Normie range 6 - 7 are usually just more under the radar/invisible. I don't even get reactions like that in public from women.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Canada won't, there is no PUA culture in Canada, not like in the UK.
There used to be before 2014, but the authorities cracked down on it as well as the media. If anything @PRW63 got it backwards. Toronto, Canada you could get arrested for it, they cracked down in 2013/2014, decimated the PUA culture, now the UK is following that trend and it will eventually be like Toronto too.
 

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Sub-5s get the treatment by women you are talking about. So, even if you think you are a 6, if women are treating you like a 5 or less than means you are a sub-5. If you were a 6 then they would not walk away quickly or be creeped out. Most likely they wouldn't even notice you to even do that. Normie range 6 - 7 are usually just more under the radar/invisible. I don't even get reactions like that in public from women.
They aren't generally treating me like a 5 or less. It happened a couple times on the street when I was acting indirect and awkward as fvck. I chased down two girls at a cross walk at a red light just now and introduced myself and told the closest one I thought she was attractive, and asked her name and number. Got a more neutral/positive reaction, she didn't seem uncomfortable, but she wouldnt give me her number either. Not surprising though, like I said I literally chased her down lmao
 

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This guy doesn't get laid, you can tell it. He is way too happy, he's entertaining but girls won't fvck him. His approaches suck big time. Plus the girls he approaches are terrible...
Yeah, he's a self-proclaimed drunk who runs around talking to girls in a high-pitched voice, slurring his words, and he's trying to sell "coaching" and books to guys on how to get laid when he doesn't provide any evidence that he's successful at anything he does. He's entertaining and funny, I'll give him that.
 

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Very successful for me. But that wasn't the case in the beginning, it took time and practice. That was the only way I actually build some real confidence and "game".

I'm in a relationship now so haven't done it in a while, obviously, but if you have ever read any of my older posts/comments I always advocate for cold approach and avoid OLD for many reasons.

For me, and I say this again FOR ME, my approach to cold approach (pardon the redundancy) was always to find out what is something of value that I can learn from this girl. I saw every strange woman as a whole new universe to explore and made it fun game of exploring and adventuring. So my thought before approaching was "what can I learn from her that will make me a better man and human being and what makes her unique". So that genuine approach and interest will always come across and in theory, should return better results whether in the form of a contact/date or simply a great conversation. This eliminates the fact that most guys approach strange women with a hidden agenda even if they don't know it or think the woman will not notice making them seem like every other creepy guy that has approached her.

Hope that makes sense.

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Yeah makes sense. Like I said, I'm better at having interesting convos with girls who are solo and stationary. Trying to approach groups walking on the street too, but it's super awkward, or feels that way sometimes
 

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They aren't generally treating me like a 5 or less. It happened a couple times on the street when I was acting indirect and awkward as fvck. I chased down two girls at a cross walk at a red light just now and introduced myself and told the closest one I thought she was attractive, and asked her name and number. Got a more neutral/positive reaction, she didn't seem uncomfortable, but she wouldnt give me her number either. Not surprising though, like I said I literally chased her down lmao
What Corrector doesn't understand is that ratings aren't set in stone. they're fluid. One girl might think your a 5 while another will think your an 8. Not every girl will think your a sub-5 if that youtube guy says your a sub-5. reason why people don't get success from street approaches is because its a low percentage game, no matter what the guy looks like. Too many factors working against you for it to be an efficient way of getting laid.
 
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